Registered: 08/31/10 Posts: 5195 Originally Posted By: TimeHeals Quote: I am leaning towards letting her go
In all honesty, you cannot do that because she is already gone.
All you can do is admit it yourself. Your only choice in the matter of where she is emotionally in terms of your marriage right now is whether or not you accept the reality of where she is, and she is gone.
Good points TH.
Bust...just become the best man and father that you can be. Let everything else fall where it will. _________________________ It's not who you are underneath, it is what you do each and everyday that defines you.
Don't go shaking the HO tree and expect an angel to fall out.
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#35428 - 12/14/10 11:45 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: Medc] bustorama Member
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Originally Posted By: Medc Bustorama, if my ex (even if the paperwork was not completed) that I had left 7 months prior confronted me with the same stuff, I would also feel stalked.
Yeah, I think the issue probably comes from POV. She must view me as her "ex" whereas I had viewed us, until now, as together, but separated/in limbo, in part because I was focused on stuff she was saying to me (I need to work on me before I can work on us; you are fixed, now I just need to fix myself, etc) instead of her actions.
Originally Posted By: Medc She is right...you don't have a relationship....She no more owes you the truth....
I disagree with this. I am not friends with people that lie to me. I expect the truth from my friends and from my ex-W from first marriage. I give them the truth back. W and I may not be in a romantic relationship, but I expect honesty in my personal relationships.
Originally Posted By: Medc Why do you feel that she should freely provide you with information about her personal life???
I didn't ask for information on her personal life in this case. I asked her not to lie to me. When she started telling me about her choices on who to have / not have on FB, I stopped her and said that was her business, not mine.
Originally Posted By: Medc I think it is always important to act in the best interests of your children...even if it conflicts with the wants/desires of the other parent. Kids come first IMHO.
YES!
_________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
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#35430 - 12/14/10 11:47 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] bustorama Member
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Do I "owe" her any statement that I am stepping back, letting her live her life as I focus on my own? Verbally relieving her of my pressure on her? _________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
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#35433 - 12/14/10 11:57 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] Pinhead Member
Registered: 11/08/10 Posts: 627 Busto,
What would your expectations be in regards to giving her such a statement?
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#35434 - 12/14/10 11:58 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] MyRevelation Member
Registered: 09/08/10 Posts: 756 Originally Posted By: bustorama Originally Posted By: Medc She is right...you don't have a relationship....She no more owes you the truth....
I disagree with this. I am not friends with people that lie to me. I expect the truth from my friends and from my ex-W from first marriage. I give them the truth back. W and I may not be in a romantic relationship, but I expect honesty in my personal relationships.
Get your head around this concept ... SHE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND ... she is your STBXW ... and regardless of what you may want ... EX's are not friends. It is just the way it is ... once you have been M'd to someone and that falls apart ... for whatever reason ... there is simply too much emotional baggage and past hurts to be able to maintain any type of "friendship" with that person.
So ... she is not your friend ... therefore, she has no duty to tell you the truth.
ACCEPT IT ... and move on!!! _________________________ "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." - Will Rogers
"I'm a juvenile product of the working class, whose best friend floats in the bottom of a glass." - Elton John
Registered: 11/08/10 Posts: 2324 Loc: Tennessee Quote: Same thing. You were asking her about being on FB. And btw Bust, her Facebook page is her personal life.
OK, I am pretty sure that horse has stopped breathing, so we can stop beating it now grin
You get the picture, right Busto?
Your wife thinks she's single right now. That is her operating reality at this time.
You need to worry about YOU and your progeny. You're going to be a great dad, a great man, and an all around good human being who is proactive, taking care of business, and looking forward to building a better tomorrow for now.
If you catch yourself worrying about what your wife is doing that doesn't impact you financially or legally, say this to yourself: "I get it. She doesn't love me the way a woman is supposed to love her husband".
Nothing else to say about it right now. It is what it is.
Edited by TimeHeals (12/14/10 12:25 PM) _________________________ Your Time Perspective Can Heal Mend the broken, make strong the weak and vanquish the evil.
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Originally Posted By: Pinhead Busto,
What would your expectations be in regards to giving her such a statement?
I guess it's that I feel bad about my actions and how she was probably experiencing them given what I've heard on here. That I wasn't "getting it" that I did have my nose in her business, where it shouldn't have been. That's what I mean by "owing" it to her?
There also is a component that I want to communicate to her that my change in focus away from her is not anger towards her. I would prefer that my change in focus not be perceived as anger (since she tends to see anger in me) as that might strain our interactions. I guess I can disabuse that simply by continuing to be pleasant and happy when I do see her.
What about the first part though about apologizing for being in her business?
Edited by bustorama (12/14/10 01:38 PM) _________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
Registered: 11/08/10 Posts: 627 Originally Posted By: bustorama Originally Posted By: Pinhead Busto,
What would your expectations be in regards to giving her such a statement?
I guess it's that I feel bad about my actions and how she was probably experiencing them given what I've heard on here. That I wasn't "getting it" that I did have my nose in her business, where it shouldn't have been. That's what I mean by "owing" it to her?
There also is a component that I want to communicate to her that my change in focus away from her is not anger towards her. I would prefer that my change in focus not be perceived as anger (since she tends to see anger in me) as that might strain our interactions. I guess I can simply disabuse that simply by continuing to be pleasant and happy when I do see her.
What about the first part though about apologizing for being in her business?
I think you gave her enough of an explanation. It's a public site, and if she doesn't want people looking at her profile, she shouldn't post on FB. _________________________ The best things in life aren't things.
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Originally Posted By: TimeHeals
You get the picture, right Busto?
Unfortunately (or fortunately?), yeah....
Originally Posted By: TimeHeals You need to worry about YOU and your progeny. You're going to be a great dad
Hey, I already am a great dad! ;p Will work on being even better though =)
Originally Posted By: TimeHeals a great man, and an all around good human being who is proactive, taking care of business, and looking forward to building a better tomorrow for now.
I sorta feel like I need physical space from her to detach/heal? Unusual? This is the first time I've been the dumpee in such a significant relationship, so I'm a bit at a loss. It's strange, I think Pin is right that I really reattached when things had seemed better between us, but I guess maybe it was false/premature hope? I felt less invested a couple of months ago.
Originally Posted By: TimeHeals "I get it. She doesn't love me the way a woman is supposed to love her husband".
My new mantra.
_________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
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#35556 - 12/14/10 02:21 PM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] rob x Member
Registered: 11/12/10 Posts: 1383 a little birdie sent me a msg telling me you were sucking a$$ in your situation, ok, I think it was you, LOL!
Sorry, I haven't been on the site in a while, christmas season and work and family life, busy, busy, busy, I don't even have time for crackbook lately and that is essentially the greatest tragedy in all of this..... wink
Are you really ready to let go or are you still trying to convince yourself?
Can we make someone love us?
Say for this one example, we could make someone love us. We could snap our fingers and make someone love us.
Magic.
Would you want that?
Sounds tempting.
And it might be great to begin with because a lot of people would try that to begin with.
After a while though, something would sink in, you would know that although it feels great, on some level, it isn't real.
Why?
Because you made that person love you. Their love wasn't given freely and if it isn't given freely, it really isn't worth it.
You have to realize this.
Let go of apologizing to her. Let go of explaining things to her. Let go of creeping her crackbook page and seeing what she's up to.
If she really wants out and away from you which is what she's telling you, give her what she wants.
Smile and open the cage door, "you have served your sentence and you are now free to go."
That last sentence applies to your wife and to you.
2011 is around the corner, I expect great things for you in that year, ultimately it's up to you to make 2011 a great year, I think you can do it.
Start with christmas this year, make some great memories for you and the kids, start taking care of yourself, stop worrying about your wife, the sooner you consider this marriage over, the sooner things can turn around if they are in fact meant to turn around.
I'll reply in a bit later on, just wanted to touch base and say hey,
"....Hey!"
wink
_________________________ “Man’s proper stature is not one of mediocrity, failure, frustration, or defeat, but one of achievement, strength, and nobility. In short, man can and ought to be a hero.”
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#35750 - 12/14/10 07:20 PM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: rob x] bustorama Member
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 HERE WE GO
1. When someone rejects me and the relationship I have shared with them by breaking up with me, I will register this red flag, step back, and not attempt to change their mind.
She has moved out. She has said we are no longer together anymore. She has said we are not in a relationship. She has said we are "broken up." She has blocked me from facebook since June. She has refused to work on the relationship and gets angry when I bring up the relationship. Although she has said that I am fixed, refers to me as her husband (not ex) in public, and has paid lip service to reconciliation, there has been no ACTION on that front. ***I SEE A RED FLAG***
2. I will not settle for less for the sake of having some crumbs rather than nothing at all.
I BARELY EVEN GET CRUMBS. MIXTURE OF CB AND CRUMBS (she buys me groupons here and there, makes me meals here and there). I feel disrespected by her and not that she looks forward to seeing me.
3. I will cut contact to give myself time and space to grieve the loss of the relationship.
I WILL STOP INITIATING CONTACT TOWARDS HER TOWARDS / THROUGH CHRISTMAS. FOCUS ON LITTLE ONES. How you guys suggest acting if she initiates contact towards me in context of family time? Do it for the kids, focus on them?
4. I will recognise lazy communication for what it is and not inflate it into them actually missing me and wanting to get back together.
YEP, maybe she's bored. Wants a fix of my attention or maybe family time. If she wants me and reconciliation, I will KNOW it, not wonder it. Think of how I acted when I wanted her and reconciliation. Not subtle...
5. For the sake of not confusing myself or causing me to do something that I later regret, I will not sleep with my ex. If I do, I will accept responsibility for the consequences.
HEH, not an option.
6. I will not bombard them with my love.
I will be a good man to her and around her.
7. I will recognise when I am becoming obsessed with my ex and will force myself to step back so that I don't end up trapped in denial.
No more facebook creeping. Let her text and FB who she wants. I will use the TH mantra when I find myself thinking of her, My W doesn't love me like a woman should love her husband." and focus on something else I am grateful for.
8. I will not punish myself for the breakup by neglecting me or doing stuff that is essentially me acting without love, care, trust, and respect towards myself.
I made serious mistakes. But, they are in the past and I have made amends in my behavior. Will continue to do so. I have expressed my remorse and amends to my wife. Will seek to grow physically, emotionally, spiritually, mentally in some way each day.
ONE QUESTION here guys I had made a giant remorse/regret list. Some of these remorses I never shared with my W because my IC said she was too fragile, that I should wait until "we were back together." He was convinced we would reconcile. Should I share those remorses with her for completeness? Or you think she's gotten the message from all the other apologies I've made.
9. I will not keep trying to get back together with someone who has already rejected me more than once.
Heh. I've been rejected so much, I have almost become desensitized to it.
10. I will not wait and put my life on hold for anyone.
No time to live like the present.
Edited by bustorama (12/14/10 07:36 PM) _________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
Registered: 10/16/10 Posts: 59 Originally Posted By: bustorama
ONE QUESTION here guys I had made a giant remorse/regret list. Some of these remorses I never shared with my W because my IC said she was too fragile, that I should wait until "we were back together." He was convinced we would reconcile. Should I share those remorses with her for completeness? Or you think she's gotten the message from all the other apologies I've made. [/b]
You share them with her when SHE wants to reconcile.
NO MORE APOLOGIES. If there is someone else it just doesn't matter. I still remember her calling you "Mr. Perfect" in spew form, why add more fuel to the fire? smile
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#35864 - 12/15/10 01:04 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: SurvivalnAK] bustorama Member
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Made Gingersnap Pops with the girls tonight. The girls were so awesome, we really had a good time. Was awesome to spend some great quality time with them after an emotionally draining day. I really needed it.
Probably ate a few more than I should have and am gonna get on the elliptical in bit. 42 days til my half marathon. Time to get my butt in gear. =) _________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
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#35943 - 12/15/10 05:15 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] kimmie lee Member
Registered: 11/08/10 Posts: 2738 Loc: SEATTLE, WA Busto, your w is "afraid" of you? That's laughable. How come she's not "afraid" of you while you are running around like a chicken with your head cut off running errands for her, picking up her ridiculous wedding stuff, grocery shopping for her, etc, etc??
And please, she gets in a fender-bender or her car needs repairs? Tough! [censored] to be her, Dear!
Stop apologizing to her. In fact, stop talking to her AT ALL! Stop everything. Hit the brakes so hard that she goes flying through the windshield.
And stop with her lame-@ss excuses about her family of origin issues and past boyfriends. Why do you allow her to keep beating you over the head with that f'ed up sh!t?
She really is a piece of work.
LET HER GO. PUSH HARD FOR A DIVORCE.
Also, please, stop telegraphing any of your moves to her. You are not helping your sitch by handing this info to her on a silver platter with a side order of more cake for her to keep eating.
And stop backing down every time she is nicey-nice to you. It's nauseating. _________________________ THE FOG comes on little cat feet.
It sits looking over harbor and city on silent haunches and then moves on....C. Sandburg
GOSH!! GOLLY!!
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#36032 - 12/15/10 10:14 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: kimmie lee] bustorama Member
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Originally Posted By: kimmie lee Busto, your w is "afraid" of you? That's laughable. How come she's not "afraid" of you while you are running around like a chicken with your head cut off running errands for her, picking up her ridiculous wedding stuff, grocery shopping for her, etc, etc??
And please, she gets in a fender-bender or her car needs repairs? Tough! [censored] to be her, Dear!
Stop apologizing to her. In fact, stop talking to her AT ALL! Stop everything. Hit the brakes so hard that she goes flying through the windshield.
And stop with her lame-@ss excuses about her family of origin issues and past boyfriends. Why do you allow her to keep beating you over the head with that f'ed up sh!t?
She really is a piece of work.
LET HER GO. PUSH HARD FOR A DIVORCE.
Also, please, stop telegraphing any of your moves to her. You are not helping your sitch by handing this info to her on a silver platter with a side order of more cake for her to keep eating.
And stop backing down every time she is nicey-nice to you. It's nauseating.
Thanks for the advice and key observations, Kimmie =)
I was struck by three things last night.
1) W called at one point to ask me to put book for D5 in D5's backpack. W will be reading to D5 at school. I was surprised that W was pleasant on phone (in contrast to previous night when she learned I was creeping on her facebook). Anyway, at one point W said something about repairs to the bumper on her car and said, "It's nice if WE won't have to pay for that." I said, "Yeah, it'd be nice if you don't have to pay for the bumper on your car." How did we get from a seething WE ARE NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP to a happy "we" paying for her bumper overnight?
2) The time when W spoke the most about possible reconciliation was the time when I did not call her after the police were sent out on a suicide check to her apartment.
3) I had completely forgotten this memory (denial? selective amnesia? very strange), but something Pin posted reminded me of it. You may remember that W gave me a pre-bomb in Summer of 2009 that she wanted to divorce me. I begged, pleaded, engaged in all kinds of Plan A behavior, allowed myself to be banished to couch for the whole year (over supplicating). So, W stayed in house, but still acting angry and woe is me. Around Thanksgiving 2009, she went to restroom while making an email to her girl friend that was in the process of getting divorced and the screen said:
Yeah, I have him kissing my ass. He's wrapped around my finger. Not sure what I'm going to do.
I said to her wtf is this disprespectful crap. She said oh I don't really feel that way, that's just how girls talk to each other. And the whole time leading up to that she had been acting like woe is me....
_________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
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#36045 - 12/15/10 10:40 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] Pinhead Member
Registered: 11/08/10 Posts: 627 Originally Posted By: bustorama
Yeah, I have him kissing my ass. He's wrapped around my finger. Not sure what I'm going to do.
I said to her wtf is this disprespectful crap. She said oh I don't really feel that way, that's just how girls talk to each other. And the whole time leading up to that she had been acting like woe is me....
Doesn't sound like much has changed in a year...
And yeah, that's how girls talk to each other when they don't respect the guy they're with, but don't have someone else to replace them with. _________________________ The best things in life aren't things.
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#36051 - 12/15/10 10:59 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] Not2fun Member
Registered: 09/06/10 Posts: 1388 Loc: Gateway to the West Originally Posted By: bustorama
. I begged, pleaded, engaged in all kinds of Plan A behavior, allowed myself to be banished to couch for the whole year (over supplicating).
Begging and pleading is NOT Plan A. Not now, not EVER.....
Buster,
Let me ask you this....
WHAT exactly is RECOVERY to YOU?
How do you PLAN on getting there?
See that is the BEST thing MB does have to offer. It has a GREAT Recovery PLAN. A Plan on HOW a marriage SHOULD be. It is very solid, very concrete.
It was me selling MB's recovery PLAN, me BELIEVING in it, and standing BY THOSE CONVICTIONS....that made a very foggy, wayward Mr. Not start to DOUBT his actions and the affair.
I'm a bit unclear on to HOW you would Plan to Recovery your marriage. I suspect your wife is too...
And as far as being afraid of you....think really hard on that one. The devastation caused by an affair is emmense. Most all BS are very afraid of the WS, after all, we know first hand at the destruction they can cause....Her fear being laughable?? Hardly... Not2fun
Edited by Not2fun (12/15/10 11:00 AM) _________________________ If you aren't being transparent, then you aren't being authentic. If you aren't being authentic, then you are being a hypocrite."
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Originally Posted By: Not2fun Begging and pleading is NOT Plan A. Not now, not EVER.....
There was genuine Plan A stuff in there after the begging and pleading. Lots of acts of service and words of affirmation. Being attentive to her needs and seeking and welcoming companionship/conversation, gave so many back massages my hands became hands of steel (with massages immediately followed by my being sent to sleep downstairs. It started as begging and pleading but there were real sustained Plan A stuff for a few months and it got to the "wrapped around my finger comment."
Originally Posted By: Not2fun
WHAT exactly is RECOVERY to YOU?
Mutual respect. Mutual attraction. Mutual trust. Mutual love and loving actions. Mutual desire to be with the other person and work on building a healthy relationship as equals for the rest of our lives. Mutual patience. Mutual understanding. Mutual forgiveness. I guess for all of these SELF as well, not only mutual.
Originally Posted By: Not2fun How do you PLAN on getting there?
See that is the BEST thing MB does have to offer. It has a GREAT Recovery PLAN. A Plan on HOW a marriage SHOULD be. It is very solid, very concrete.
It was me selling MB's recovery PLAN, me BELIEVING in it, and standing BY THOSE CONVICTIONS....that made a very foggy, wayward Mr. Not start to DOUBT his actions and the affair.
My Ms. Busto has not wanted to come to the table try as I have to meet her EN's or to "sell" recovery plans to her. We have to arrive at respect and trust as prerequisites first, I think, before we could work on recovery.She does not respect or trust me if I give myself away. She does not respect or trust me if I don't respect her wishes to be separate from me. Or maybe she has to decide she is ready to forgive. I cannot make her forgive me through my actions. She can see me from a distance and see if I am a good man to our kids and, to her, if she comes around.
Originally Posted By: Not2fun I'm a bit unclear on to HOW you would Plan to Recovery your marriage. I suspect your wife is too...
I have explicitly said I get that I hurt her badly and so deeply, how sorry I am, how wrong it was of me, she did not deserve it and it was fully my own responsibility for making terrible choices, that I want to stand with her and support her as she heals, will hold her hand through whatever healing process she would like us to do, want her to tell me how I can help her feel safe, have done things to try to help her feel safe, offered 100% transparency, asked her open-ended questions of what she wanted from me, changed my distracting/neglecting behavior, explicitly apologized for hurting her, been attentive to her needs and our kids' needs, actively listened to her when she chose to share her world with me, empathized, suggested perhaps outsiders could help the situation -- marital counseling, retrouvaille, etc..
RESULT? "We are not in a relationship." "I am afraid of you." "I do not want to work on this relationship." She is living there. I am living here.
Yes, her fear of getting back into a relationship with me might be very real. I get that. And it would be possible to be scared of getting back into a relationship with me, yet still enjoy the fruits of my reconciliation labors. May be where we are now. I have gone with that for some time so she knows that I can bear fruit and am willing to bear fruit, but it is not good to do so indefinitely. Not healthy for me, not healthy for her, not good example for our kids. And, moreover, she has never consistently told me she wants a relationship.
Tell me, how would you see a Plan A in my situation?
Edited by bustorama (12/15/10 02:00 PM) _________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
Registered: 11/16/10 Posts: 989 Originally Posted By: bustorama
RESULT? "We are not in a relationship." "I am afraid of you." "I do not want to work on this relationship." She is living there. I am living here.
So now you know her stance, what's yours?
You said she won't respect you if you won't let her separate.
Let me tell you a little story:
Alexandra wants to eat cake. The moist kind with icing and strawberries and all of the yummy deliciousness that one can imagine for a decadent dessert. Alexandra has been eyeing that slice of cake for a very long time, she wants nothing more than to get a taste of it.
Julian, the world famous pie baker, does not want Alexandra to have that piece of cake. It's fattening, not as good as the pie he's got in the oven right now, he spent so much time making it and baking it, it was her favorite dessert before, he cannot possibly understand why she'd want to eat cake when she can have his homemade pie.
This doesn't jive well with Alexandra, as you can imagine. She's huffed and she's puffed and she's told him a thousand times, she will eat her cake, she doesn't want his pie.
He keeps asking her, can't she smell it baking in the oven? It's the best pie there is. It's won the pie contest the last 5 years at the annual pie festival. He cries out, EAT THE PIE, Alexandra! Wait for it, it's almost done baking! I can even add a new ingredient to it if you like, serve it up with some vanilla ice cream, your favorite kind, garnish it with some cinnamon, add all the sweet things you like.
Alexandra is pouting in the corner, hands folded over her chest. I want my cake! Why wont you let me have my cake? If you won't let me eat my cake, I am going to eat it any way and there is nothing you can do!!!
Julian is defeated. And hello, why not? He is, in fact, the best pie baker in town. This is an insult to his pie-making skills. But he grows tired of her wanting to eat her cake and so one day he says, Fine. Eat your cake. But you can't have my pie anymore.
And so it goes. Alexandra goes on to eat her cake. So yummy, so delicious, it's everything she imagined.
Choose your own adventure time.
Alexandra may or may not get tired of eating that damn cake (and consume all those calories, hello, I hear she's even had to hit the gym lately, she has to make up for over-indulging, not to mention the nauseous feeling in her stomach, all the sweetness may be making her sick).
She may get sick of the cake or maybe one day she looks up and realizes, This really [censored]. I will never get to eat Julian's world-famous pie again because I made this choice...
No woman likes to be denied the things she wants. Edit: No PERSON likes to be denied the things they want.
What I'm saying here is: If she NEVER has the option to never taste the pie again and only be able to eat cake... she will NEVER know what it's like to experience life without the pie.
Registered: 11/09/10 Posts: 6390 Where did you get my story from? crazy
I have to have a serious talk with HIH when he comes back. No more kissing and telling. _________________________ "A desire presupposes the possibility of action to achieve it; action presupposes a goal which is worth achieving." - Ayn Rand
Registered: 11/14/10 Posts: 356 Yeah, it's time for me to move the bakery to the other side of town, fix it up and work on some new pie recipes for a grand re-opening. Not enough paying customers on this side of town.
btw, my dental hygienist asked me for my phone # today, lol. I said, I'm not back on the market yet, but I will be back for a cleaning in 6 months. _________________________ Me-40 W-36 D9, D5, D3 T-Since 12/2001 Married-9/2004 She Moved Out-5/28/2010
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#36500 - 12/15/10 10:56 PM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] kimmie lee Member
Registered: 11/08/10 Posts: 2738 Loc: SEATTLE, WA Originally Posted By: bustorama Yeah, it's time for me to move the bakery to the other side of town, fix it up and work on some new pie recipes for a grand re-opening. Not enough paying customers on this side of town.
btw, my dental hygienist asked me for my phone # today, lol. I said, I'm not back on the market yet, but I will be back for a cleaning in 6 months.
Awesome! dancing _________________________ THE FOG comes on little cat feet.
It sits looking over harbor and city on silent haunches and then moves on....C. Sandburg
Registered: 10/16/10 Posts: 59 Originally Posted By: bustorama Yeah, it's time for me to move the bakery to the other side of town, fix it up and work on some new pie recipes for a grand re-opening. Not enough paying customers on this side of town.
btw, my dental hygienist asked me for my phone # today, lol. I said, I'm not back on the market yet, but I will be back for a cleaning in 6 months.
See! Someone who wants to be with you! Bet your Wife will miss you when she sees you let go.
Not being an A-hole Busto, but shinola has to change. Your kids + YOU + A good life = success.
Hang in there friend.
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#36603 - 12/16/10 10:08 AM Re: Bustorama #1 [Re: bustorama] pookie69 Member
Registered: 11/09/10 Posts: 6390 Originally Posted By: bustorama btw, my dental hygienist asked me for my phone # today, lol. I said, I'm not back on the market yet, but I will be back for a cleaning in 6 months.
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My favorite bartender asked me the other day why she has not seen me with my W. I told her that things have changed. Suddenly she told me all about the breakup with her fiance and that she needs to find a roommate. grin
My palms are hairy and vision is blurry, but I will also wait a little until my next cleaning. grin
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