We saw a christian MC starting in about Sept last year. Our last meeting with him he met with us individually. To her he said "elf isn't going to accept/get that it is over. You need to get a L." To me he said "this is over. You can't change that. But you can decide on how it is going to end." He was on the far side of the spectrum from results-based coaching. But I appreciated him and our sessions with him, mostly. I totally need to work on my listening skills. Funny that can't really practice with W right now.