Originally Posted By: cat04
Well, our definition of alcoholic is different (huge suprise). I also have dealt with alcoholics who are sweet as pie even when drunk, but they still NEED to drink.

Alanon does help others learn how to deal with the effects of someones drinking and that is why I think it might be helpful.

Gosh, golly, our definition of gaslighting is also different. I guess using Holly Ann's definition, we are all guilty of doing it as well as victims of it, because we express our differing perspectives on a situation...

Autumn,

You are doing great not allowing your anger to fuel your choices. Anger should always be used as a shield and not a sword.



Yeah, that's nice. But that is not Autumn's h.
I see little chance of this guy being real unless the alcohol is dealt with. Seems he can't drink without acting like a douche toward her.