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It is not hopeless, but you must not discuss the marriage relationship (MR) with your W.....no matter how much you want to. Don't push for MC b/c right now she is not willing and it will not go well. Give her time to cool down and give her lots of space from you.


What part of this did you not understand? You coaxed her into having a discussion about the R b/c you needed answers. But you did not get the answers you were looking for, right? You will not get them the next, either! She is a WAW and she will not do what you think she'll do.

If you are serious about wanting to save your M, then you've got to take this advice seriously.

If you insist on her going with you to MC, she will use that place & time to announce her getting D from you. So stop what you're doing!!

She said she doesn't want to be with you! Do you want to be with somebody who doesn't have feelings for you and despises to be around you?

Stop trying to control what she does or feels. Leave her alone. Stop looking on her FB. Get a life that does not include her.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!