Grmpy - I totally get what you are saying. As much as I hate to admit it, I too needed this in the worst way. I feel as if I have come miles from where I was when this started. My H and I don't have kids either and I struggle to figure out how to "show" him the changes I've made to bring back "ME". Have you figured out any ideas on that yet? I have managed to use the taxes as a "non-pusuing" way to talk with H and I had the thought that working through some of the D papers (ugh - discovery stuff) would be a good way too. Other than that, I'm out of ideas. I know I can live my life without H and still be happy. I also know, though, that I would like to have him in my life; sharing the journey. I am finally able to acknowledge that this choice has to be his, but like you, I'd like him to spend some time with "me" before he makes his final decision.