Quick Vday update, yesterday I bought her a Vday card from the kids and some roses from me, I got the card from the kids due to the advice on here not to remind her that she doesn't love me. I chose roses because for the last 18 years I've bought her chocolate for Vday, b'day and xmas plus randomly at times and she has loved it but in the last 3 months she said that 'I always did it to try and keep her fat and specifically in the last 6 months to ruin her diet' crazy even though I hardly bought her any chocolate because of the diet and the one time I remember I did I deliberetly chose dark chocolate.

Anyway I got S9 to hide them in his room as I'm not going too see her or the kids today and he gave them to her this morning, I also got some roses from the kids for MIL as she does so much for us and her H died 3 years ago (this I think has played a part of our current sitch) and I kind of identified with her as I'm on my own this Vday and the kids gave them to her last night.

Just got a text saying 'thankyou for the roses it was very kind', it was part of a text sorting out childcare arrangement for tomorrow but at least it was taken as a positive. She also replied later that her Mum was absolutely made up with her flowers, which I am really happy with as well, thats part of 1 of my 180s to connect better with her family