Thanks Mach 1, I did read this difference between the two before, I think you may have posted it on someone else's thread, and it is a great definition. Thank you so much for the advice.

I do know the difference. I am at peace (mostly anyway). I know I am on the right path, regardless of how this all turns out, I will be ok in the end.

I am still at the point though (this is where I may not be fully detached) that I do care if she comes back, because obviously I want this to work. Will I be hurt if she doesn't, yes, will I be crushed, no, I know life will go on.

A lot of my list does take practice of doing it every day (interaction with her would be best, right now I do what I can when I can with who I can).

The waiting game is what most people say you have to play. I tried that, then panicked and showed her the list and the other things [all in my big post], and I feel I finally sort of reached her.

Now that I sort of reached her, I wonder what can I do to make her start doubting her decision even more. Other than of course being someone only a fool would leave (still doing that with my 180s!!!)

Is there a way to help lose that emptiness and bring her back across the point of no return?

This is where IC is failing me. Our MC pretty much conceded since she says she feels this way there is nothing left for her to do but divorce me and seek a specialist to help treat her for her depression, PTSD and fibromyalgia.


M 33
W 29
S 4
M 5
T 7
11/7/11 Separation, W moves in with parents
12/1/11 W: "IDLY, I'm not coming back, it's over"
1/7/12 D Bomb Dropped