Hi Snowman,

I understand what you're saying. Sorry if my last post sounded a bit terse, but it just sounded like things were reverting to the same-old same-old.

I think MrBond has a good point, though. You are listening to your W's words, and then (of course), interpreting them literally. The kicker is, that the best politician in the world can't think so fast that you can take him/her at their word all of the time.

Allow me to illustrate...

Me: I asked her again if she was going to call the C?
W: Claims yet again she has been so busy at work that she has not had time (what a lame excuse).

If she had time to think, maybe she would have come up with a different answer. Or, maybe she would have phrased it differently.

Me: I ask what she is afraid of calling the counselor?
W: I'm not afraid I'm just busy. Maybe me not calling is saying something.

She has already told you this. Put yourself in her shoes... Does it sound like her H is listening to her?

Me: I want to go to counseling so we can talk about this stuff and understand our issues. The counselor is not going to force you or me to do anything we don't want to.
Me: I would like to know what you want to do about counseling next week as you have been promising for weeks you will call. This has been going on for 6 months and should be enough time to figure out.
W: I know, I will think about it this weekend and let you know.

You kinda backed her into a corner, wouldn't you say?

I don't want to sound like I'm nitpicking at what you posted (didn't I just suggest you stop doing that to your W? wink ), but just trying to show you what I'm talking about.

A WAW feels trapped. That's why she wants to walk. You have to avoid making her feel even more trapped, y'know?

Andy