Sandi, I apologize if I was incomplete. I thought I referenced this in an earlier post but I may not have. You are correct: two years is not the past. When I heard the hurt in my W's voice again I recognized this. That is why I addressed it as the new me, not the absolute jerk who put myself in a position to hurt my W. Over the weekend W brought up to me again that she appreciated me addressing "for real" for the first time. I believe I am listening to my W for the first time in our M. I'm taking baby steps.