Oh, I think you misinterpreted what I meant by their time to have the A. Yes, they clearly make the time to have the A and it's I'm sure their top priority...I just meant that unfortunately, they don't have unlimited access to each other...so I think it'll take longer for the fantasy to wear away. When H says they've had to deal with reality, I have to laugh inside because their six combined kids haven't entered the equation yet. (sorry, but when you have three kids under 10...that's a pretty big factor in life)

Yep, I feel like I've been good about not showing him books or articles I've read. He knows I have several books about affairs on my ipad and he's welcome to read them if he wants to. I do need to be careful that I don't throw too many facts/stats at him. I don't mind that I've done a small amount of that recently...I wlll back off.

I'm not sure exactly what works and what doesn't. I think it's a DB approach with a certain amount of flexibility.

I agree too...the enabling has to stop and hopefully he's starting to think more about the reality of splitting. (Truly too, if we split and he doesn't wake up? That is a huge sign for me that I need to start moving on too)

Thanks again...your insights are hugely helpful.


M 44, H 46
D11, D9, D5
Married 12 years
PA confirmed 9/2011
I filed 3/2012
H moved out 7/2012