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I can not find Sandi's 37 rules but was wondering if you had read them Sunshine? I hope someone can post them here for you.


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Separated 6/22/11 moved out 10/24
Together 26 yrs
Married 16
W Filed for D 7/21/11
Served 9/6/11
D final 8/28/12

“Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be.”

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1.Do not pursue, reason, chase, beg, plead or implore! This turns the spouse completely off!

2. No frequent phone calls to spouse.......let him/her be the one to call you. Then don't try to hang on to your spouse through conversation.....instead, you say good-bye first.

3. Do not point out good points in marriage or try to get him/her to read marriage books, look at your M pictures, etc. Especially, do not get him/her to read the DB/DR book. That is for you only!

4. Do not follow your spouse around the house like a puppy dog trying to get his/her time and attention.

5. Do not encourage talk about the future. They don't want to think about a future with you at the moment, so stay clear of that subject.

6. Do not ask for help from family members or friends. Don't discuss private matters with them that would upset your spouse.

7. Do not ask for reassurances (That is showing neediness and
being clingy.) Show self-respect and self confidence.

8. Do not buy gifts to make "brownie points". (Can't buy his/her love and affection.)

9. Do not schedule dates together at this point. (That is pursuing.) Save for later when the R is much better.

10.Do not spy on spouse by checking emails, phone bills, etc. (Not good for you and will make matters worse.)

11.Do not say "I Love You" (It is being "pushy" and trying to
make your spouse say it back to you......he/she will despise you for it.)

12.Act "as if" you are moving on with your life with or without them and that you are going to be okay. Keep a good attitude.

13.Be cheerful, strong, outgoing and attractive at all times! In other words, be the best you can be and look the best you can look at all times. Even when wearing jeans and T-shirt, wear good cologne, b/c it does cause the spouse to take notice.

14.Don't sit around waiting on your spouse to see what kind of mood he/she is in or what he/she is going to do or say – get busy, think of things to do. Go to church, go out with friends, etc. in order to get a life for yourself without waiting on your wife/husband.....but it is okay to invite them, just don't act as if it will change your plans if they do or don't go.

15.When at home with your spouse, (if you usually start the conversation---then don't, wait for him/her) then, be rather scarce or with your words, but don't sound rude or too short like you are mad. If your spouse asks what's wrong....just say "nothing" and have a pleasant expression on your face. Keep it short and simple. Don't get into an argument! Stay polite and don’ t act like you are pouting. Use poise and class. This does not mean to act like you aren’t speaking, but don’t be overly talkative.

16.If you are in the habit of asking your spouse his/her
whereabouts, ASK THEM NOTHING!! No matter what time he/she comes home! You are giving them space and asking no questions! You enjoy your time with your kids, friends, etc. Remember, you are getting a life, also.

17.You need to make your partner think that you have had an
awakening and, as far as you are concerned, you are going to
move on with your life, with or without your spouse.

18.Do not be nasty, angry or even cold - just pull back and wait
to see if spouse notices and, more important, realize what he/she will be missing. (But never ask him/her if he/she has noticed any changes!!) This is important! If you do, then you have blown it.

19.No matter what you are feeling TODAY, only show your spouse happiness and contentment. This can confuse some of them b/c it is not what they expected. Show your spouse someone he/she would want to be around all the time, somebody that can be attractive and fun to be with. That somebody is you! Don't overkill in your attempts to outshine another person your spouse may be having an A with (if there is OP in the picture) to the point of looking like your attempts are "fake" b/c your spouse will see through all of that.

20.All questions about marriage should be put on hold, until
your spouse wants to talk about it (which may be a while)so this takes patient on your behalf.

21.Never lose your cool! Don't let your spouse trap you into a fight. Don't take her/his bait.....leave the room or the house for a while, if you have to, in order to avoid a fight.

22.Don't be overly enthusiastic, don't over-kill; in anything you do b/c it will come across as fake.

23.Do not argue about how your spouse feels about something (it only makes his/her feelings more negative.) Only they know how they feel!

24.Be patient......very, very patient. Give your spouse space and time. When you pull back, it will draw them towards you. It feels opposite of what you want to do, but it works!

25.Listen carefully to what your spouse is really saying to you. Look them in the eyes when they talk to you. Do not interrupt them when they are speaking and stop what you may be working on to look at them when they talk. This shows them that you really care about what they are saying.

26.Learn to back off, shut up and walk away when you want to
speak out (or scream and yell).

27.Take care of yourself (exercise, sleep, laugh & focus on all
the other parts of your life that are not in turmoil). This is for your health's sake.

28.Be strong and confident and learn to speak softly. Read self
help books, inspirational books or listen to tapes. They are for you only.

29.Know that if you can do 180's, your smallest CONSISTENT
actions will be noticed much more than any words you can say
or write.

30.Do not be openly show that you are "desperate" or "needy" even when you are hurting more than ever and truly feel desperate and needy. This is a large turn-off for your spouse.

31.Do not focus on yourself when communicating with your spouse, instead, focus on them.

32.Do not believe any of what you hear and less than 50% of what you see. Your spouse will speak in absolute negatives because
he/she is hurting and scared.

33.Do not give up no matter how dark it is or how bad you feel.

34.Do not ask your spouse if he/she has noticed your changes. Those changes are for you and for the rest of your life...with or without your spouse. If it is just to get your spouse back...they won't last and the same problems will return.

35.Do not send several TM's or emails throughout the day unless absolutely necessary.

36. It is best to stay away from the bar scenes where other problems easily arise.

37. Do not backslide from your hard earned changes.

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WHG and CO thank you both so much!!! It didn't even occur to me that she wasn't asking me a question and the text does not require a response until you guys brought it to my attention. Ugghh I still have a long ways to go before I get this DBing stuff down.

In all honesty I was going to send the text to try to make her a little bit jealous. I know it's wrong which is why I asked for help on this board because when emotions take over sometimes it's hard to do the right thing.

I will reply tomorrow with the quick text that you suggested.

Thank you both again. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.


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Journal:

I just wanted to let you all know how much your advice and support means to me.

I was having a mini melt down about how to handle a texting situation (god that is stupid) and you all jumped in and saved the day. Thank you, thank you, thank you

Thanks to everyones' advice I am feeling in control and dare I say a little bit empowered this evening (can't tell you the last time I had those feelings).

It's crazy that something as silly as deciding not to reply to a text message can be so liberating. The really crazy thing is that I am not texting her back simply because I don't want to.

I'm sure I will have many more meltdowns over the course of all of this, but at this very moment I am happy and at peace. You all helped me get to this point so I just wanted to share it with you smile


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Sunshine please Rewd and remember the 37 rules above or no pictures from me cool


M 53
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Separated 6/22/11 moved out 10/24
Together 26 yrs
Married 16
W Filed for D 7/21/11
Served 9/6/11
D final 8/28/12

“Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be.”

John Wooden





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LOL Rick not only will I review them I will memorize them, but hurry up and go on vacation so that you can share the damn pictures already laugh


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I couple months ago I overheard (well actually I was listening in, but whatever) my wife's conversation with her best friend. She was talking about her old flame who is now the OW. She said that when she saw her (OW) she realized that this was the person that she was supposed to be with all along.

It completely broke my heart. I have been thinking about what unconditional love means lately. If we truly love someone and want nothing more than for them to be happy than shouldn't we be willing to let them go if they are not?

I truly love my W and she deserves to be happy as do I. I guess sometimes loving means letting go.

My W gets home tonight and I plan on going to get coffee when she gets here. I hope that you guys will keep me in your thoughts and send some strength my way so that I can begin letting her go.


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I have been thinking about what unconditional love means lately. If we truly love someone and want nothing more than for them to be happy than shouldn't we be willing to let them go if they are not?

I truly love my W and she deserves to be happy as do I. I guess sometimes loving means letting go
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That's truly detaching and it takes a strong person to get to this point. Don't be surprised if this realization comes and goes. It's all part of the process.


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M36 S 2.5yrs R 12/13

Let me give up the need to know why things happen as they do.
I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering.
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Thank you LB! I know that I am going to have to fight like he11 to let her go.

Ugh this really really stinks


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Your words ring so true and are very wise. Loving them is letting them go to be happy if they aren't truly happy where they are. I plan to do the very same thing.

In addition it also means that we deserve that same happiness. I think that is what I am now realizing.

Will be thinking of you later and hope it goes well for you!


-Autumn

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