Thanks much. Yes those are good. Not sure How I missed this but thanks, I do need to get better at doing just what you suggest. This is the certainly what struggle with the most - finding my own thing to do and not dwelling on what she's doing.

Now for an update. Conversation after Christmas eve dinner went something like this.

From her, we're too smart and too good of parents for it to hurt our kids too badly. I replied, I think that if we're that smart and good then we'd be able to figure out how to move forward together with us both being there as parents to our kids. She said, "if we got back together, how would you see it working"

I told her i really don't know, I can't promise I'll never say anything that wont hurt her feelings, or have another argument that doesn't go anywhere, but I know that I don't want those things, that I don't want to repeat the same mistakes, that i want her to be happy, me to be happy and for us to be there together for our kids" The conversation went on to her reluctance to therapy and other issues but that portion I just mentioned was paused only by her crying in my arms.

Sunday and Monday, more of the cold shoulder and discussions on need to know basis only. The roller coaster commences.

Thoughts?