Antlers: I have seen a complete outpouring of understanding, listening and wonderful advice here. And you reply that you hear us and thank us then keep going over and over and over again the same thing. Do you really think you can keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result?

None of us here are therapists. We do commiserate. We do understand. But if you can't get past this or take a small step to make it better - then you need to get professional help.

You do mention you are seeing a counsellor but you don't mention how your counsellor is helping you. You don't mention implementing any of our suggestions.

I don't think there is much here that we can offer. The next step has to come from you. Expecting acceptance of an apology is for you - not for her. Why should she do it?

As for your daughters - actions speak louder than words. "the text is stopping me" - is a complete and total copout. I've heard my kids tell their dad they didn't want to see him. But then he tries again and they make the effort and life goes on. Your daughter is your daughter for the rest of her life. YOU need to be the adult here.

And as we pointed out a long time ago. Did you really think that telling your ex MIL was going to HELP???? Why point out her mistakes when you acknowledge you made many yourself.

Anyway - please let your supporters here know what you are doing to make the necessary changes. Let us know which advice we've given you that you have actually used. If you keep whining about how unhappy you are but don't do anything about it - do you really think we will continue to make suggestions? We run out of ideas after a while.

I think you need to have your depression addressed if it hasn't already and maybe that will make the change for you to be able to make positive changes in your life.


Barb