Rick 89, I can't imagine exactly what you are going through. I am lucky as of right now I don't have OM to deal with, I get to see and talk to my W often because of our S4, I found this sight a week after W left me and was able to get an early start on things. I DO know that DBing is working for me. I KNOW I am already a better person and father than I was 2 months ago. Even through the heartache I haven't felt this good about myself in a really long time. Stress is way down, I feel healthy, and in our short time together I am communicating better now with my W than I did in the last 2 years. I may only get 20 minutes a day, but I can see that she sees a change in me. My friends, my coworkers and family notice changes in me. Like others have said: Consistent changes + sufficient time = change she can believe in. Its a marathon not a sprint! (If I had a dollar for every time I heard that.) DBing isn't for everyone, heck M isn't for everyone either, its something you have to decide to yourself. In the end, our Ws may not come back, will it hurt, yes probably, but not as bad as it hurt when she first left because I know I am better and I did everything I could to make things work, and I know my next relationship WILL succeed.
M 33 W 29 S 4 M 5 T 7 11/7/11 Separation, W moves in with parents 12/1/11 W: "IDLY, I'm not coming back, it's over" 1/7/12 D Bomb Dropped