I'm still digesting these comments.

1. One of my goals (marks of progress) was to move back in. While I haven't directly asked this of my wife, I would say that she would have seen this as a mark of progress.

I didn't really give much thought to "how" that might happen other than the way as KD suggest. I knew it was rough financially, but I just figured it was part of the game.

2. her additional comments suggest progress on her part. I would agree with her assessment. The stress level between is a lot lower.

3. I could have tried to manipulate the situation, but I did not.

4. My goal was not to share the bed right away.

I understand the progress is personal, but I wonder how that works in real life. I mean piecing as I understand it (not saying I'm there yet) is a effort on both parts. However, if they have different views of progress - that will be trouble.

So I think for me to dismiss her effort as non-progress on her part (because it's personal to her) is very dangerous in my situation. Especially, since I have been accused in the past of "not recognizing her efforts) I know this gets a little hung up on the efforts vs progress. But I don't know if my W is ready to distinguish them yet.

I would take a slight disagreement with KD though. I think there is almost some progress in the effort. I mean in the hill example. I think you'd learn a lot by failing which could help you the next time. That is progress -- maybe not for the immediate goal, but overall.


Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet.
--Jean Jacques Rousseau.