Doing the "Friends" Route Pt 2...

[Abbey]

My T says that it's like pulling teeth to get men to admit their mistakes. Their ego is such that it often will prevent them from not only admitting it, but doing the work, or saying the things that we as women need to hear.

While I too wish I could get the words you long for. I don't think I'll ever hear them. It does play into my indecision of if we're ever going to have a real chance. That and I know that he'll have to hate her in order to get her out of his hair for good. I know he's not ready, he knows he's not ready. At least that we're being honest about too... I'm not going to pressure him this time (made that mistake last time). Once I get the heck out of here, that'll implode on it's own.

Yesterday gave me a birds eye view of their Jerry Springer show. Jeeze Murphy. I'll journal later, but this crazy parasite keeps texting him (another some 40 calls and texts yesterday) telling my H, I'm going to tell your wife how much you love me, blah blah blah. WHOOOO CARES!? What the f' does she expect me to do?... Melt into a puddle and die?? Crazy wacko nutjob.

He showed me the texts, and the amount of calls. We had a very decent talk about he being in an abusive relationship. He admits he has to get over the fact that he loves her. My comment is the same: You have a daughter to protect. She is clearly not stable.

So... btw, I told him the story about you MZ and his eyes opened wide and was shocked. (They recognize it in others, always easier to see when you're not emotionally involved in the sitch.)

She makes claims and threats that she'll come to me, and tell me all his secrets. It's like watching someone who's got the maturity of a 12 year old girl, who has HUGE abandonment issues. She's nuts. Now more than ever, I CANNOT wait to get the hell out of here.

My first marriage was to one of these 'never enough' insecurity wackjobs. My last comment to him was: I lived this with exH. No amount of effort, love, affection, acquiescing to their manipulation and insecurities are EVER enough. I don't envy you, I know what it's like to have to break away from that.

Abbey