25, don't mean to hijack thread, I see you have been giving some great advice. I was curious about Retrovaille and looked up some info on it. It all seems very interesting. At what point would you ask a WAS to try it, you say maybe piecing, but can it be used before it? It seems funny, other people on the boards talk about signs on not quitting, but when I looked at the website, I sort of got a sign. Earlier in the night I had prayed and asked God for a sign on what would be best for W and S to be happy, and when looking at the website for Retrovaille it mentioned the patron saint is St. Joseph. Well being raised catholic I chose St. Joseph as my patron Saint for confirmation and was born on St. Josephs day (March 19th). Could be a few silly coincidences, but hey you never know. I saw there is one in my area January 20th. Would this be too soon? How do you exactly ask a WAS to attend something like this?
CO1978 - believe in the signs. Here's one that happened to me Monday. I was with a friend talking business and during it I asked him how his W is doing with her breast cancer. He updated me and told me that his W has been a WAW for a few years. I didn't know this and he didn't know about mine. We spoke for hours and I brought up the topic that I'm not sure I could be as evolved as he (turn the other cheek) in forgiving the OM and we discussed my feelings that I could not stop myself from kicking this guys' butt if I saw him. My friend's answers were so evolved, insightful and helpful concerning forgiveness and understanding of both my W and the OM, and eventually we ended up outside talking on the sidewalk. Then I heard someone walking down the walk towards us and it was like an old western where I could hear spurs. Lo and behold it was the OM my friend's wife cheated with and they had a very cordial discussion. This could not have happened at a more opportune time.
Then, I get into my vehicle and there is a sweet text from my WAW telling me she loved the flowers I had bought here recently, an out of the blue, unexpected show of being connected.
Signs? Divine intervention? Has to be.
I think the stronger we allow oursleves to be, and when we take the higher path we are more likely to be in tune with the spirit world. Not easy but has to be done!
