I've been exploring something called the NightWave, which is a technique that teaches you how to breath/control your heartbeat in order to relax and turn off your mind. Ordered it last night. It has a 30 day money back guarentee, so I'll let you know how it works. I have Ambien, which I do not take every night. Melatonin, HT5, all of that. It just doesn't seem to work. Yes, the Ambien knocks me out. I used it last night and didn't even hear my son call at 9:30, and the phone was next to my head.