WCW, Why do you consider my advice "mean spirited"? BeingMe has been here 7 years and her H has told her time and again he doesn't love her, doesn't want her. She on the other hand has stayed and took it all. My question is this: Why not a little shock and awe? Why not throw something unexpected in there? What does she have to lose? Everyone is different, just as you and your H are. As you pointed out, your H left, but as you pointed out, he came back. BeingMe's H is there and why wouldn't he be? He leaves for weeks at a time with his job, comes back for a couple days, then its back to what he wants to do. Anyway, that's why I gave the advice I did. BeingMe, I agree with WCW in the sense that I don't feel you are ready to split yet. I have heard you say these things before, but yet there is always something that keeps you from doing anything for a while down the road. I also agree with WCW that its fine if you wish to continue living that way. Its your life and its yours to do as you wish. I don't think anything will change though until you do something extreme.