"You feel there should be no ultimatums because you were the one that cheated. You were the one that went outside your marriage. So you empathize with the person that has a PA or EA."

Uh, sorry to butt in here but I think you've got your sitch's mixed up. I don't believe 25 was ever involved in a PA. It was her H who ditched her and the family for a REAL LONG TIME!

Besides, I thought you weren't going to get into a pissing match. You've made your point, 25 has made hers. Lets get back to Jake, shall we?

Me51 W53 S17 S14
M22 T25
Bomb-9/11; A-11/11; I move out 11/11

It's easy to find our bottom, it is our top that requires cultivation.

Every rough spot adds to our emotional constitution. -Barney Fife