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sandi i am a man and it could be writen here plain as day and i still would miss what you are telling me. Now that i read what you wrote just now makes sense. I guess my ring is more for me and my self esteem to show myself i am married. I guess it will go back on my key ring for me to carry with me but not wearing it.
Thank you for being blunt.


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slightly hard night tonight. After therapy i went back to my condo to pick up my kids thingsfor the next few days. I got there to find my wife there and not at her parents house like she said she would be. Also the om is working in the condo below me and when he sees me he turns away and walks out of the room he is fixing.
W and i spoke sporadically about kids and her work. I got all i needed also saw om was in my place last night because of beer cans sitting in my fridge and her glass of wine in the sink.
Just kills me to see this and i will be better off when i only have to see her every other weekend. It'll be tough but i have to do this. So glad its the holiday season yippee. (sarcasm)
she also had to tell her grandfather what was going on for thw first time. So that explains why she was home. She needed to get out of her parwnts house.


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sorry i hit the send button before i was done.
So she told her grandfather who i later found out was upset for the two of us. I got to my inlaws to pick up my kids and likw usual my mother in law offered me some dinner. Now i was fighting back anger and tears the whole car ride, listened to tool which helped. I was not going to eat but they were also making dinner for my daughter so i stayed and held everything in. Till my mother in law touched my back while i was getting a drink got a little teary. Then sat down for dinner and had a conversation with my grandfather in law and mother in law. Kept that together cause my daughter was next to me. Such a great distraction.
I think my mother in law might have her suspicions about om. I think my w's parents are in the dark. They don't know what is with her and i know they really like me. Kills me when they ask me and i have to play dumb.
Going to be a tough holiday first time not together in 12 years and her bday is on monday so fun weekend. I will be taking the kids all over to keep distracted.


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I guess my ring is more for me and my self esteem to show myself i am married.


If it helps you to wear it, then that's fine. I just wanted you to understand that it doesn't work in any way....shape....or form of a productive message to your WAW. Key word here is "productive".

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she also had to tell her grandfather what was going on for thw first time. So that explains why she was home. She needed to get out of her parwnts house.


My antenna went up the first time I read that she & the kids spends weekend with parent. The kids probably stay, but she may find excuses to leave the kids there while she has private time.

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Kills me when they ask me and i have to play dumb.


Have you told MIL that she needs to ask your W for her unanswered questions? The in-laws were probably opening a door for you to confide in them, but unless you intend to expose the affair, I would not reveal anymore just yet.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!
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Your comments make sense regarding my ring.

[My antenna went up the first time I read that she & the kids spends weekend with parent. The kids probably stay, but she may find excuses to leave the kids there while she has private time.]
This was the first time she did this. When she has the kids she has them. The kids were at my in laws cause my son had a half day and my MIL picked him up. Plus my FIL asked my W to pick up the turkey from the store and drop it off. She left cause she didn't want to be around her GF and she feels guilty.

I have spoken with my in laws about who she is hanging around with. They know how much these guys drink. It is not my place to tell them about affair. MY FIL wants to have a talk with her but she ignores his phone calls. I have a feeling it might happen this weekend. My MIL got a chance to meet these guys and she was not to thrilled with them, of course they also toned the drinking down when around her. Part of me has a feeling my MIL knows something is going on. She can still tell my W is not happy.

My W is at her parents house all day with her Grand Parents who are upset for us. Kids are with me with my family.

Its good to have them here but very upsetting at the same time. Of course beauty and the beast was on this morning and my kids watched that. All I could think of was taking my W to NY to go see the show years ago. Got upset.


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Originally Posted By: sandi2
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I guess my ring is more for me and my self esteem to show myself i am married.


If it helps you to wear it, then that's fine. I just wanted you to understand that it doesn't work in any way....shape....or form of a productive message to your WAW. Key word here is "productive".

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she also had to tell her grandfather what was going on for thw first time. So that explains why she was home. She needed to get out of her parwnts house.


My antenna went up the first time I read that she & the kids spends weekend with parent. The kids probably stay, but she may find excuses to leave the kids there while she has private time.

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Kills me when they ask me and i have to play dumb.


Have you told MIL that she needs to ask your W for her unanswered questions? The in-laws were probably opening a door for you to confide in them, but unless you intend to expose the affair, I would not reveal anymore just yet.



Just a note: EXPOSURE IS NOT RECOMMENDED.


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No dbmod I have no plans on telling the MIL or FIL they can get it from her or figure it out on there own. If i said something Iknow it would make matters ten times worse and I don't want that.


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Why when you talk with friends about being separated it seems like you have the scarlet letter on your chest? They don't think that you can work this out and they automatically think its over. They tell you to work on you and be happy with your kids when you have them. Fix you first. Yea obviously this is what needs to be done. I question why friends say why are you hoping for this too change, or you don't know if she will ever change you need to move on.
My reply is your right, BUT, she is my wife and the mother of my children, I do not really want to have mommys house daddys house. I want to have OUR house and that is it. One family happy and together again. DO I know if this will ever happen. Nope BUT I CAN HOPE AND WISH.


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There is a section in the Divorce Remedy that explains that. I don't know if I have it exactly right but basically:

1) Your friends just want to see you happy and *think* they are giving good advice

2) Your friends' notions about marriage are influenced by Hollywood.

3) Your friends are not invested in your marriage. They see the pain, but don't see what keeps you going

Bottom line, use your friends for support, but not for advice.

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Bomb Dropped (EA, D): 7/13/11
Start Reconcile: 8/15/11
Bomb Dropped (EA, D): 5/1/2014 (Divorced)
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