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Her birthday is coming up on Nov. 29, and I would assume the no contact rule would still be in effect? No present either?


If she contacts you by email or TM, you could reply to any questions she has, but keep it short and do not try to extend the conversation hoping she'll talk to you. It's kind of like trying to woo a wild animal or bird. You have to start off with very little food (attention), and get them to "want" to come to you.

My suggestion about the birthday is to get her a pretty card (but nothing mushy or about how much you love her, etc.). If you don't have her address, then you may have to send an on line card or some other alternative. I would not totally ignore the birthday, but don't send anything to her place of employment! Don't ask to take her out. Just a card would be okay under these circumstances.

She will thank you for the card, so just be casual and don't try to pull more talk from her. Let her lead with the conversation and you just keep it simple. Then, pull back again. You have to pull back in order to let her see you are not pursuing.

Don't let the pulling back scare you.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!