Here's the thing, SSM guy. I think asking the question you're asking is passive, if not passive aggressive. You're asking a question when what you should be doing is stating your position. If I were you, I would sit down with W, express my unwavering love and affection, admit that I haven't always if ever found the right way to communicate with her about sex, and then lay it down: I cannot live celibate and much as I love you I want to separate now and begin getting a divorce. I respect you enough to believe what you have said, that you will not change. However, I wish things were different and I'm willing to try anything while we're separated to turn this around. But I need you to know that I'm really serious - this is a need that I have and I need a partner who sees meeting that need as an act of love.
No whining, dealing, complaining. Express your reality and act on it. As you say, you've done everything else you can think of.
Adinva 51, S20, S18 M24 total 6/15/11-12/1/12 From IDLY to H moving out 9/15/15-3/7/17 From negotiating SA to final D at age 50 5/8/17-now: New relationship with an old friend __ Happiness is a warm puppy.
