WHG I really liked your attitude in that last post of yours and it reminds me of the db-ing I used one day on h. He was so used to me being clingy and conversational with him. He was used to me being attentive and putting him first. I remember back to when he first BD and how he complained about my clinging-ness.

So I just started to pull back, be quieter, not pursue, not cling, not engage. Oh I have an ipad too ... I will never forget the look on his face when I chose to read it, rather than run after him when he got home from work to ask him all about his day.

I think it's interesting that when I began changing my usual behaviors, he began reacting.

You may not see immediate changes in her decision on what she will do. It may take a while for her to come to that.