Cam, I agree. And I know it's hard.

I'd get the urge to have OR talks with my W. It was this STRONG need to engage, even though I knew it probably wouldn't go well. I never really understood where it came from. Maybe fear - any interaction (even a bad one) seemed to indicate she hadn't toally given up. It was the hardest part. I don't think as quickly on my feet when talking with my W (ironically, this is sort of my job and I'm good at it at work) and there was too much emotion coming through. Rationally, I knew I shouldn't engage unless it was going to be a step forward. Slowly, the need to start these train wrecks of a conversation got less and less intense and I found that she would start coming to me to talk and when she did most of the conversations went better. I was probably stronger then, and come off better....seems to put her at ease. What am I saying....I guess fewer, shorter, less intense interactions are usually better at first. Easy to say, I know.