I know....as always u are SO right. I was just so damn--- u know--- the adjectives. I think some stupid part of me hoped W would say---- OMG. Really?? OW is THAT type of person? Man, I better break it off. LOL how silly is that? Of course i didn't REALLY think that way, but you know what I mean.

Your (my perception) calming voice - clear, well thought out words... calm me and kind of bring me back to reality.
It's not B and W-- it's not a tragedy. It's a mistake. I can live with that. I always learn, but my worst thing over and over is saying TOO MUCH!!!!!!

I have definitely improved when i look back at my threads. BUT I have my moments.


You said: At some level, We all believe what we want to believe and

your w has way too much ego invested in her being "right" now, than in being happy or true or

doing what's best for s4.

So back off. For all we know, what you said hit a chord or she wouldn't have cared at all what you said. You can tell her IF SHE ATTACKS you

"me thinks thou doth protest too much" or something a little low key, almost indifferent.


YES -- I DO think it hit a chord b/c she was angry and kept telling me not to go any further....If there wasn't a shred of truth, she could shrug it off. I always use the analogy of myself -- if someone comes up to me and says, "You are stupid" I would say..."uh-huh" and not give it a second thought because it's simply an untruth. BUT if someone called me "fat", because even though I'm not enormous by any means, I am a little overweight and was moreso as a teenager, I would be WOUNDED and HURT by that remark. So the Shakespearean reference is a testament to a common thing amongst people.


Me (f): 45
W(f) 35
T: 13 y
C: S4 adopted at birth
6-18-11 bomb: I want to break up
8-28-11 OW confirmed