Thanks 25. I tell him because I hope he will "hear" it this time. Understand it! Which I know is totally against DBing. I don't want to push him totally away. I still feel some hope. Go ahead smack me. He acts as if hes not needed or wanted. Such low self esteem. I never knew! I thought this could help relize he is missed. I know he is miserable but not miserable enough yet. I believe rock bottom is near. Hard day today. I need to detach more - again. I truly believe he is a sick man. Legally, everything is in motion. My L received all of his info. Now waiting for me to turn in some more info on debt. Also for him to come up with a visitation schedule. Can't wait to see theat.