Seatle, I really like the forest fire comparison.

(((Shiny and CJ))) - group hug.

What a difficult time for both of you. But, on the other hand, what a step forward. Sam once said to me that she is so sorry for what she has done, understands the pain I felt, and that I once said something that made her feel worse that she ever could. I believe she is sorry, but I cannot believe she has the empathy to understand the hurt I felt and still feel. And I am certain I can say some things that will hurt her much more than she does now.

And I am starting to feel that I want to because I want her empathy. Your saying the D word hit him like a train. I want Sam to get hit as well. I think we need a cleansing king of arguement to move forward. I just can't do it because of the kids.

But, ya know, our MC once told us that couples who never argue always split up because of unmet needs never being talked (argued) about. Anger gets a bad rap, I think. Passion is a mighty thing. Of course, as Sage said, you don't want to do it all that often.

On another topic, you said in your arguement:
I felt "What’s that compared to feeling LOVED by a LOVER???"

You have found the words for one of the things I feel. Thanks.

Keep your chin up. I am sure the arguement you had will do some good.