thanks for clearing this up...^^^ too many contradictions and omissions.
SSM-I never said masturbation was wrong, I said it's one sided. What I meant when I said you may need to show her that you want HER and not "just going for the orgasm", I wasn't referring to her orgasms, but yours.
SSM whatever the situation is, I'm sorry for both of you. And I still wonder
Why are you here NOW?
You must like to keep spinning your wheels and you definitely like talking about sex.
But are you willing to DO much about it to change things?
....after all, it's all been done and you are simply stuck stuck stuck.
So you know, I AM NOT suggesting you leave. There IS value in staying married.
I just don't know why you are on this site and what it is you are looking for, really.
B/c your stories are Not consistent and some of them ring hollow.
But good luck
M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016