Barb, there are always things that can be interpreted as one thing or another but when people make statements like "I'll be good to you, but if you ever betray me you'll never see me again ever" I didnt think we were talking about me not getting butter on her popcorn. When she says "we're not just talking about male female comminication here, were're talking about you and me" What would you be thinking? Hearing "there's lots of time for us to be together" huh? I was always straight about where I was. I said to her last night "You talked about trust being so important, well, where was the trust MM? You left me believing that something was happening that wasn't and despite all sorts of opportunities to talk to me you didn't do it" I asked her how many times she lets friends buy all her meals? How often does she throw kisses to her "male" friends for a favour. Why did she tell me it was OK to hold her hand, "I just didn't want you to feel embarassed so I said it was OK?" WTH! I even asked and gave her every opportunity to set me straight, she chose to continue the charade. I said "that's not what friends do to other friends" She claimed we were never even dating! Excuse me, I corrected her on that little load of bs. Then she said "but we wer dating as friends" Uh, when was that ever made clear and I said "I don't even know what that means! How do you date as friends?" Finally she said "stop, I'm not liking this" Yeah, who is. I should send her a bill for her half of our "friendly" meals that were never dates and stiff her with the tip lol. Hey, it's one thing to say, that after a few dates you realize that it isn't gonna work, lets be friends (which did not happen) it's another to say "we never dated" OMG! Then why did you ask me "do you really like dating me. Be honest!" Nuts. OK, venting over, I've got work to do. I'm done with this.