Tad: I'm not an experienced DBer but I am in this very familiar situation. Everything I've said and written to her about r, m, kids etc has fallen on deaf ears. W just doesn't respond or responds with a cold one liner. We have hearing today to modify provisional agreement. I initially agreed to the normal every other wknd thing and support as well as giving her the house. After she couldn't refinance house, she wanted to have me kicked out. I'm now asking for the house and joint custody of our children. She refused/s to talk anything about reconciliation and believes that her retaining primary custody of the children is whats best for them. I disagree. I'm totally involved in there lives. But the response is really just a waist of time and emotions. I've learned the hard way for over a year. They've made up their minds and anything or anyone that doesn't support their agenda is blocked.