I am still avoiding R talks with her. She seems to be avoiding them with me as well. A 180 may be to initiate a R talk - the only time we ever had them when we were still in the same house was when she brought up the D word.
jb, it just might be a good 180. You could always feel her out before getting in too far with the R talk.
One thing my H did say to me today was that so many of the things I said during our R talks kept running through his mind and then one day he realized, he couldn't ignore them any longer. And all the doubts he had about ending our M, suddenly didn't matter as much.
So maybe the WAS does listen sometimes. (Just a thought because my H isn't your W obviously, but they do seem to share some personality traits).
- the only time we ever had them when we were still in the same house was when she brought up the D word. 
