TAMF - It's stories like yours that give the rest of us reason to believe that order can be restored.

I believe that I'm in this mess for a reason and I'm a rare "glad it happened" person. I don't dislike my wife at all, but I was raised without a father and a single working mom. I have no concept of what family is. Through my W's turn of events, I do believe I have learned the value of family AND what it means to be a father and husband.

ALb has a quote that I saw further up that defines the source of my strength to maintain the fight I'm in:

"Love me when I least deserve it, for that is when I need it the most"

My wife needs me. She disagrees and believes that marriage is something she never wanted, but I know better. She wanted better from me. I don't argue at all with her. I give her love and support and try to understand as best I can.

TAMF - I used to dream of your situation, what would I say to my W if she wanted to be together again. A month ago she told me she was sorry she was not the person I deserved and she was sorry she was not that person. It fell on deaf ears. I used to dream of the day I would hear her tell me she was sorry for anything. It was anti-climactic and I felt no fulfillment. My trust barrier has been damaged and I just don't believe she cares right now. She apologizes more often for whatever this past month, but it all is becoming annoying a bit because I'm growing too familiar with sorry today enemy tomorrow.

I agree with the others. Words prove nothing. He should have more time to really reflect on himself. Words can't prove to you what actions can.

I do have a question for you TAMF - Does he know of your DB efforts in the past? What books you read or this website? From what you are saying, and me not being a trusting fellow, it sounded a bit scripted on his part. Almost as if he was hitting all the right trigger words.

I don't want to burst a bubble. I really am happy for you and your situation makes my day. I want this to be what you really want. Just be cautious is all I'm saying I guess.