In a nutshell, I was able to get her to go to MC for 2 years. I made a lot of changes during MC. I read a lot of books. I learned how to love unconditionally. I thought part of the purpose for that was it was God teaching me how to love His way. It changed my attitude toward my W and toward other people. It probably gave me a jump start on DB'ing. OTOH, my W said she learned a lot about herself, but she really didn't make many changes. Her attitude toward the M seemed to change, but she really didn't invest any time in the homework. She didn't read any books. I'm not being critical - part of that's just her personality - she not really a reader or researcher.