Thank you for your posts 25. Always find relevance through your experiences and wisdom.
Yes, the ow's D who spoke to my D was the one who had the baby. ow's children (4) are all grown up now but lived through a very messy divorce between their parents, when they were children.
ow definitely has issues herself and tries very hard to keep H from attending events in our kid's lives. (This was confirmed through text messages between ow and H) When she knows that H is with our Ds she constantly texts him. The D's report that H doesn't even bother to answer the texts anymore.
25, I'm with you. If I found someone again and they weren't good to my children, there's the door.