Seeking,

IMO, they are trying to relive their own youthfulness through others. Like HE just had a baby. Yes, I know the pain. My XH is listing OW's youngest son ( 11) as his 'son' on FB, and leaves off our two daughters entirely, as if they didn't exist. AND THEY SEE THIS SH!T. Then he texts unexpectedly and tries to make nice.

Extra hugs to your D today Seeking. It's tough learning survival tactics when you are that young, but I suppose better now than too late. What worries me, even with my D's being in their 20's, is that this will color their opinion of men, of marriage, of so many things. Self protection mode will kick in and the walls will go up. Walls are great, but it's lonely to live behind.

You have great judgement, Seeking. Take a long, and objective, if possible, look at your D and her attitudes, and decide how best to follow through. Here's hoping her old man comes through on her B'day! Cheers.