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Originally Posted By: Denver_2010
Originally Posted By: FooFighter999
^^^^^^^Agreed


There is no question that I should be dropping the rope... my W has this nasty habit of drawing me back in every couple of weeks though.



Denver,

So did mine, kept me hanging on until she finally opted for the OM. Wiped me out for a good couple of months afterwards. I'm now in a really good place since we have ceased seeing each other. Gotta go, she's just arrived.

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Denver,

Sweetie,

Stop waiting for your W to get her head out of her a$$...

That isn't up to you...

You are still trying to manipulate the situation.

If you weren't, you wouldn't be so upset that she hasn't responded to a few moments of transparency from you and a few moments of showing her the changed Denver.

Reality, you have tried just as hard to make her jealous and change her mind that way by flirting with other women as you have by being open and honest about what is in your heart.

Your words and actions aren't matching up. Sorry.

You could rent a billboard and proclaim your undying love there and right now, it would seem no more believable because of your lack of consistency.

Not in contact/NC...

But in what you are showing her.

She needs to see it, and even with little contact, she will (they do see it believe it or not), and she needs to see it consistently and for a long time...

That doesn't happen by checking her email, by dating OW, by flirting...

It happens when you live and appear happy and content. By yourself. Not with other people.

It is really up to you.



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Originally Posted By: Drew
Originally Posted By: Denver_2010
The problem is, she just doesn't seem to be getting it.

It's like she is trying to convince herself that I am still this horrible guy who could never change.

You don't know this.

Stop assuming you know how she feels.


you are right Drew... thanks.


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Originally Posted By: cat04
Denver,

Sweetie,

Stop waiting for your W to get her head out of her a$$...

That isn't up to you...

You are still trying to manipulate the situation.

If you weren't, you wouldn't be so upset that she hasn't responded to a few moments of transparency from you and a few moments of showing her the changed Denver.

Reality, you have tried just as hard to make her jealous and change her mind that way by flirting with other women as you have by being open and honest about what is in your heart.

Your words and actions aren't matching up. Sorry.

You could rent a billboard and proclaim your undying love there and right now, it would seem no more believable because of your lack of consistency.

Not in contact/NC...

But in what you are showing her.

She needs to see it, and even with little contact, she will (they do see it believe it or not), and she needs to see it consistently and for a long time...

That doesn't happen by checking her email, by dating OW, by flirting...

It happens when you live and appear happy and content. By yourself. Not with other people.

It is really up to you.



Cat - Thanks. I know that you are right. I have backslid a few times for sure. I'm trying to get to the point that you, MHL and others are telling me I need to be. I really am.

Right now though... I just really miss my W and SS. It has only been one month since I was spending every minute of every day with them for a week at Disney World.

It is taking every fiber of my being and will power to NOT reach out to W right now.

Because I know that this isn't up to me...

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I understand where you are coming from. It's like a drug (or so I imagine). We get a little taste of the WAS in our lives and we want more and more. We need our fix, and it takes a lot out of us to resist that temptation.


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Denver,

I still visit these boards, I'm divorced and very happy in another relationship so take what I say with a pinch of salt.

You have had so much good advice you are one of the lucky ones, your wife is still invested,just see how angry she gets, that my friend believe it or not is your biggest asset.

Have faith in yourself to be yourself and watch the results.

Search for a guy named Nomopo, don't know what happend to him but every time I read your sitch he pops im my head

In the words of the guy I admired the most (Bworl)

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Denver,

"reaching out" to her now = pushing her away.

Don't forget.

Your Consistent changes + Time = change SHE CAN believe in.


She MAY not choose to believe in the changes, but she sure as heck won't believe you if you keep drawing lines in the sand

and then crossing them.


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M: 35 yrs
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*2016*
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Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
she sure as heck won't believe you if you keep drawing lines in the sand

and then crossing them.


^^^^ BIG

This was similar to my point about not going to the concert.

Which I agreed with! (whatever that's worth wink )


But that was only one test. There will be many more. Some smaller. Harder to spot.

We can argue about where that line should be.

But it doesn't matter right now. Because you already laid it down.

Hopefully you were prepared.

Because this ^^^^ means sticking to it now.


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Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
Denver,

"reaching out" to her now = pushing her away.

Don't forget.

Your Consistent changes + Time = change SHE CAN believe in.


She MAY not choose to believe in the changes, but she sure as heck won't believe you if you keep drawing lines in the sand

and then crossing them.


25 & CS... thank you guys. I know that you are both correct. I cannot reach out to her.

I have drawn my line in the sand and I must adhere to it.

I need to give this time.

Denver


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Denver - You can do it. You know that reaching out would be taking a step backward and you'll never be moving forward until you live through this part of the process. I'm rooting for you so hard!


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