Hey, ip, I only meant to use the stop sign to keep the pictures from going around in your mind of possible scenarios between your H and ow. That's what drove me nuts, and wouldn't let me think straight. I don't at all mean for you to put it out of your mind, just that seeing it in your head make it so hard to focus on what you need to do. Maybe a bit of detective work is what you need to do since he isn't being very forthcoming. Especially if you feel he is only telling you what he thinks will get you off the track. vc