CS wrote a great post.

To me, it varies a bit from Mach and MHL's.

I THINK the M's are pushing you away from contact with w in order for YOU to finally detach. This frightens you b/c you fear it means you'll have gone past the point of no return. I beg to differ.

If nothing else gets learned here, remember that LOVE is at least in part, A CHOICE...

and we can choose to let ourselves love someone fully again. Where the head goes, the heart (eventually) follows.

If someone is bad for us, eventually a healthy person lets THAT Sink in and gets over the person. They begin with detachment.

But that doesn't have to lead to divorce or zero love forever.

On the contrary, real detachment allows us to love in a healthier way. Not so needy or clingy, and with LESS conflict...

To me ( & sorry if I got this wrong guys),

Mach/MHL are saying that you cannot detach if you have ANY contact with your w -- even when it's NOT R talk and even when it's Not a "conflict ridden zone" talk...??

I hope they are wrong. But I am not sure if they are. So,

Is it true that you cannot handle even that type of contact (i.e., No r and no conflict talk, but pleasant, genuine conversations) from your w--

Is it true that You only want ONE TYPE of contact from her and that is full 100% committment to the m,


which will happen somehow, w/o ANY communications between you two...

if lightning strikes her and she comes out of the fog to choose you and only you


even though YOU won't be demonstrating the new Denver to her b/c You'll be all silent...???

B/C if it is....then I think your chances of reconciling are pretty slim.

MHL/MACh, am I misinterpreting your posts?

Are you suggesting that Denver has nothing left to demonstrate to his w?

I am not arguing the point so much as asking.


M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
Embrace the Change