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i dont disagree with MHL.

in my case, my x is only happy when she's miserable. she's in her glory when she can complain about someone, or how she's been wronged, or how someone did something stupid that really messed up her day.

of course, now i'm that someone.

but by waiting to ask to switch with only a few days left creates that same situation where x would feel self-justified to complain. "oh, KenF is so inconsiderate, i asked him a long time ago (just a little exaggeration) and he refused, see how awful he is." and she'd get the sympathy party she wanted.

there are those that thrive on chaos and turmoil, and blaming others for their own shortfalls. and they're usually the ones complaining about it the most.


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Interesting perspective MHL.

Thinking about our M, the truth is neither one us was a very good planner.

I have always been kind of a "play it by ear" guy.

W probably tried more than me, but she also would have a hard time following through with plans.

Speaking of her family. Her mom is an EXTREME planner.

EVERY detail always worked out. My W and I would joke about it, since like I said, we are both different in this regard.

My W is probably more like her dad. More laid back and willing to "go with the flow."

I can truly see how my W wanted MORE leadership from me in this regard.

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On a side note. D freaked AGAIN this morning while dropping her back off with W.

This is now the last 3 times in a row.

I am concerned, and trying to think if I should take any action on this.

Just not sure what you can do for a 2 year old in this situation.

I struggle to believe any type of child counseling will work at such a young age.

Anyone have any experience with this?


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Originally Posted By: LITB
Originally Posted By: Country_Song
LOL, maybe we are all a little crazy as well wink


Sometimes my W makes me think that I'm crazy. Who knows? I was gonna go all Dave Chappelle up on your thread, but I don't want dbmod to 86 me. laugh



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Originally Posted By: MHL

Where we as husbands go awry in the marriage is our own fear......fear that we may experience some negativity from our W's when we fully take on that organizer roll........for lack of a better term........I guess what I am dancing around here is LEADING the family.

At the risk of ruffling some feathers of the wonderful women that post here I will say that women want and desire that LEADERSHIP but they do not want a DICTATORSHIP........a thin line to walk to say the least.

The problem for us is fullfilling that leadership role in a way that communicates LOVE and CARING......which are feelings we as the LBH's still experience today.

Country, your W still wants and desires that leadership from you......and you and I still have an instinctual urge to step into that role even in separation/divorce.

While on the surface it may seem crazy, your W is doing what comes naturally to her and she is still seeking that sense of security from the person that she feels is best able to provide it........YOU.

Does not mean that she wants YOU back it just means that she is wants it and you were the last person that provided it. When we draw back and go dim or dark and basically let them make their own way, they squirm because they trully "feel" our absense.

It is hard for us to withdraw that blanket of security, we actually "feel" a need to provide it, however if we do not they will never "miss" us.


^^^ Great post MHL ^^^


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Roller coaster from hell 2/2011-5/2012
I request divorce 5/2012
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You around Country ?

Question for you...

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Originally Posted By: dbmod
Originally Posted By: LITB
Sometimes my W makes me think that I'm crazy. Who knows? I was gonna go all Dave Chappelle up on your thread, but I don't want dbmod to 86 me. laugh



That's when we make you a moderator -- laugh

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That is a roller coaster that I refuse to get on.

You have to be 10 feet tall and bullet proof. I don't meet either of those requirements. laugh


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Left me hangin' Mach! laugh


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Left me hangin' Mach! laugh



Nah....Meet me in the HLF thread.....

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Got it.


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