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Originally Posted By: MrBond
Seriously. This is not an MLC. Your W is immature ... sexually and personally. Plain and simple.

I don't know what you didn't pinpoint that. As poetic as you're making things sound. Your W is still messing around on you. . . .



. . . and losing respect for him by the day.


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why do you think the "games are going to end" now?

I think they are just beginning.


Maybe you mean you'll get some clarity? But I doubt it. I really do.

You never answered my question about a psychiatric diagnosis for your w. Does she have one, or did you come up with that?

(This is pretty damn important info for us to know how to advise.)

SIGH...

I ache for you though. I really do. But I take comfort in your comment that you made about knowing you'll be alright no matter what.

Remember that.


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There's no official diagnosis.


As for the games, the whole point of an open marriage is to end the games. If there are still games in an open marriage then your partner is really a scoundrel since it's supposed to remove all incentives for secrecy.

Needless to say if the games continue or get worse I'm out. My definition of an open marriage is one where each fulfills there needs in and out of the m with the others consent. Once this bugs me to much I'm out.

For those guys that think I'm selling out my respect I understand, on the other hand and some buddies are already planning some crazy nights of debauchery. Itll be nice to do it without the guilt I'm trying to see it as pros and cons.

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IMHO.

With your previous post, it shows your thinking is just as immature as your W. The open marriage is the ultimate game. It's juggling around not one but several people's emotions. So are you saying that just because it's another W, it's okay? What if she starts getting more feelings for another woman rather than you? Would you still feel the same? I mean, you pretty much gave her the go-ahead to do whatever and whoever.

"Once this bugs me to much I'm out. "

It already bugs you, you've been trying to convince yourself otherwise. When you start putting your W's morales or actions over yours, then you're not being honest with yourself. But there are some men who don't mind being a cuckold. If that's you, then I guess it's okay.


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I'm 27 if I ended up getting divorced, I planned on just going wild. I'm young in great shape, I'd say good looking wink , have a great job with wads of disposable income. I'm pretty confident I'd have some great long term and short term relationships.

After all the drama, it would take quite a bit to get me to settle for one girl. I'm willing to do it for my W because I really love her, but if things go south it will be ridiculously hard to get me to settle down again.

Sorry but after hanging here for a while my faith in marriage is kinda non-existent. Any and all new girls I'd meet would have to understand that I'm not on the settling down plan anymore, and they'd probably have to share me.

I gave my W my all if she ends up throwing it away it's her loss.

No woman will ever get what my W has gotten in the past. My W didn't used to be like this, but I spoiled her. Never again.

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Originally Posted By: greenblue90
Mr bond
I'm 27 if I ended up getting divorced, I planned on just going wild. I'm young in great shape, I'd say good looking wink , have a great job with wads of disposable income. I'm pretty confident I'd have some great long term and short term relationships.

After all the drama, it would take quite a bit to get me to settle for one girl. I'm willing to do it for my W because I really love her, but if things go south it will be ridiculously hard to get me to settle down again.

Sorry but after hanging here for a while my faith in marriage is kinda non-existent.

Gee, what a smart place to look for restoring your faith in marriage. A divorce support site...


Any and all new girls I'd meet would have to understand that I'm not on the settling down plan anymore, and they'd probably have to share me.
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so you DO want an open m, You just don't want HER to want it??

I gave my W my all if she ends up throwing it away it's her loss.

No woman will ever get what my W has gotten in the past. My W didn't used to be like this, but I spoiled her. Never again.[/b]


So sorry you got THIS pathetic MESSAGE and lesson out of all the crap you were put through. It's the most disappointing post you've written, to me.

There are SO MANY women who could love you in a way you have apparently never been loved before...

Women of substance, who'd care for you if you were permanently injured, or old and wrinkled, women who'd desire you over all others AND would willingly forsake others...

yes, even women who are "hot" and smart and earn their own incomes...

Geez, all this crap and THIS is what you get out of it?

That You won't ever marry again b/c a wildly confused woman with some serious emotional baggage has made you think that's "typical"? You're using her as an excuse.

Go to a Happy Marriage forum and learn what is typical in a Happy Marriage.

Don't think this place is the model for that. By definition it isn't.

You know this. What an odd lesson to take from all this self imposed pain.

How sad.


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H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
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OW
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Originally Posted By: greenblue
After all the drama, it would take quite a bit to get me to settle for one girl. I'm willing to do it for my W because I really love her, but if things go south it will be ridiculously hard to get me to settle down again.


What's with the defeatist attitude dude?

Making decisions in the present based on some what if for the future?

What if someone told you you would be here talking to us about your W going on a date with a girl?

Wouldya do it? Wouldya?

We don't know is my point.

To quote a great Cohen brothers movie:

"You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waitin' on you. That's vanity."

Just live my friend.


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^^^^ Boy, couldn't agree more.

Sad.

GB, I think you are very confused right now.

I hope you take this time to really reevaluate yourself. Who you really are. What you really want.

Peace.


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Not that I don't like your post TG... wink

But you stuck it in there while I was typing, so I just want to make it clear that I had not read it when I posted my reply. The ^^^^ was in response to 25's post.

But yeah, good stuff! smile


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"they'd probably have to share me."

"No woman will ever get what my W has gotten in the past. My W didn't used to be like this, but I spoiled her. Never again."

Gee I never knew your honoring your marriage vows and monogamy was a gift. The other women who get you after this are in for a treat.

Funny how your W has so much power over you that you actually changed into her in just a few days.

Don't know what you're waiting for. You should be going out and start spreadin' the love.


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Emotion, yet peace.
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Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet a new life.

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