Something happened three days ago that has shocked me so much that I have only just now felt able to post. On Monday am my xh asked my second son to do something illegal to 'help him out', My son who is adult, loathes saying no, but refused, I am happy to say.

But my xh was a most ethical and upright person - this above all shows me that he has undergone a total moral collapse that goes far beyond an affair. My son's gf who had recently met my xh was shocked to the core, as was I. It is true that they do things that we would never ever have thought possible and it really is all about them.

Later that day I got a very pleasant email from xh [after a couple of weeks silence]. i suspect that he wants to know if I know what he asked my son. I will reply in a few days, without providing any information. I do not want to get involved in this one, except to affirm my son that he did the right thing.