Good for keeping things slow.

I think I got a little confused about the vehicles. When people say "car" in reference to truck... well, it just baffles me. Read back and... is she still driving the truck and you're still driving the car? Doesn't matter, just curious... Although if there was a switch, just wondering when and why?

A quick thing about 180s. Understand that 180s are not intended to be long term... unless they are something that is real and true to you, that will stick... AND kept because they help the sitch... if you notice they hurt the sitch (in dark, long term exposure may be necessary to see results), then stop doing them. If they neither help nor hurt, then you can choose whether to keep them for YOU.

And on dark, there's dim, dark, and NC... NC being no contact. You are dark, since there is some contact due to financials and the D process. Dark is used to get off the roller coaster and away from the drama. It helps us detach so that we're not emotionally reacting when in contact with our S.

If you can bear it and your wife is receptive, become more... dim... be careful that it isn't perceived as pursuing, because your W may be a little sensitive to that. But if you hold a conversation a little longer, it may lead to giving your W more time to see your changes. This all depends on whether you KNOW you can hold it together when in contact with her. Otherwise, DO NOT risk it.

If you can extend contact, MAKE SURE you are the one to end it. This removes the risk your W might think your pursuing.

The point is, you will have a better opportunity to try out 180s as well. Not too many at a time, because then you won't know which ones had what effect.

Eventually, you will be a man your foolish W would leave... or you'll just be a fool... but you'll be an irresistible fool for some new lady... wink