Jack,

Thanks for responding. I've stopped snooping for some time now so I definitely am on the same page with you there. I've read Divorce Remedy and I think I'm about to start it again. I watched Fireproof alone. W is in Europe and won't be back until August (and even then will only be here for about 10 days before going to Korea to compete in the World Championships). I haven't mentioned anything to her about Fireproof and don't intend to.

As far as when she reacts positively, it's usually after I send her a scripture and/or pray for her. Before she left for Europe on the 6th, she would say to me every now and then "who are you?" in reference to the "new" me. That being said, I don't want to just continue to over extend myself so I try to kind of contact her every other day and not a whole lot.

After she ran I messaged her to ask how it went. She was on a relay and they didn't do well so we discussed it via text. It was strictly track talk...until I felt the need to ask her something.

Quote:
ME: Can I ask you something?
W: Yes
ME: Am I doing too much? I feel like I'm contacting you and I have trouble reading whether or not its welcomed or just tolerated, if that makes sense.
W: I mean.. Its just conversation. I don't know what to say to that.
ME: I guess I'm saying it doesn't seem like you're too interested in the conversations. So it may totally be on me, but I feel like I'm stepping on your toes and maybe you're just appeasing me because you never contact me wanting to talk. And if that's the case, I'm ok with that. I guess I'm just trying to understand better what you need from me. If that ends up being to just give you complete space and radio silence I can do that. Or if you'd rather just contact me if you feel like it that works too. I just find myself always wondering if I "messed up" when I message you.
W: I've just been trying to focus that's al. Its a lot on my plate..
ME: Our convos are all through text, very short and mainly just a thanks here and there for me checking on you or something I sent...if that's too much or unwelcomed, that's ok too...I just don't wanna be smothering you...that's all. If they're short and few and far between because that's how you want it, I just need to know that so that I can do what is best for you and your feelings.
W: Haven't been feeling the greatest. Been so tired.. And I have to perform. So I'm just trying to make it
ME: Well I did mean it when I said you're my best friend. And if I can help you in anyway, I'd like to. That being said, if I'm contributing to you not feeling so hot, I'd like to reverse that and if that means backing off, cool. I send you scriptures and prayers in hopes they are able to say and speak to your feelings in ways I can't but if those are adding to your plate, I'm just saying I'm willing to take them off.
W: The communication we have is fine
ME: Basically, I won't stop praying and supporting you no matter what so if me reaching out and checking on you makes it tougher for you to focus, I have no problem in stopping whatever it is I may be causing. I just don't really know what you're thinking so I find myself guessing at ways I can be there for you and help you in the way you ACTUALLY need and not the way I THINK you need.
W: Everything is fine. Stop reading into stuff so much. If I didn't want to talk when I do.. I wouldn't.
ME: I understand. I was actually trying to keep from reading too much into anything...that's why I asked instead of speculating. But I see how I came off the way I asked. Wasn't my intention.
W: Its ok wink


We then started talking about what she was up to (she said checking her email but I saw she was logged in to Skype...she still hasn't called me since the 9th). The conversation shifted to her sister who is pregnant and I mentioned I wanted a child and wondered what kind of father I'd be. She said I'd be a great dad. We joked around for a bit after that. I told her I'd have to adopt and so we kind of had some fun with that. I mentioned wanting to visit Africa some day and she said "Yea I think I'll want to go there one day."

Then our convo ended like this:

Quote:
W: Sorry so short. Dosing off a bit
ME: Its cool. Before you go, is there anything on this end I can do for you? Anything you need me to check on or help with?
W: Not that I can think of. Not in the right frame of mind to think now anyway. Feel like a zombie
ME: Well I won't be responsible for zombiness anymore than I already have been. We know how you get when hungry or sleepy. Don't drool too much and cut back on the snoring if you have a roommate. Sweet dreams.
W: Lol! I'll try. Night!


So there's positives there I think. Haven't pushed any R or M talk. Nothing too heavy. Light hearted to an extent. But now I'm kind of back where I always end up. When do I contact her next....or DO I contact her next. She said she was ok with our communication but it's so sporadic and is pretty much based on me starting the conversation. After reading DR, one of my goals is for her to want to and actually contact me. Kind of open up about something, ANYTHING, without me having the be the one to initiate.

(What do you mean by notify? I tried to send a PM but it wouldn't let me)

I'm posting this at 8:47pm CST. My guess it it won't show until sometime around lunch tomorrow and by that time it'll be pushed to page 2-4 (not complaining with any kind of tone...just frustrating when looking to get some guidance about "where I am")


mid 20s
Tgther 7 yrs
W EA 04/12/11 PA 04/23/11
W filed 05/11/11
I moved out 08/05/11
Mediation mid Oct 11
D final Dec 11
Now what? ...2012