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had their spouse turn around from the "i love you but i'm not in love with you"? thingy....

yes, i know i should not focus on this and i should work on myself and let him go.........and i don't really see much hope in my situation

but, nonetheless, i am still very curious

i can say for myself that i heard those words before from my husband and then he changed his mind

what he is saying now is that he has been out of the house for 7 months, so there i s a finality there for him

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maybe i just need to vent (obviously i do)

hope everyone is well and not too sad today


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had their spouse turn around from the "i love you but i'm not in love with you"? thingy....


Yes grr.

Turned around from the whole I love you but I'm not in love with you thingy. Turned around from the room-mate and love you like a friend. Turned around from the not attracted to you thing too.

But it was not a sharp U turn. It was a long slow turn. That felt more like a straight line most days.



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are you speaking from experience jack?

if so, best straight advice you can give me right now

god, i know its just today and that tomorrow i will feel different, but today i feel .... i don't know, vacant, empty, and dare i say desperate.....yes i said it


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Yes grr I am.

Today is not the day you quit. Tomorrow that might change but today is not the day.

repeat that ever day.

I don't see any reason to desperately hold onto a marriage for them, the WAS. There is no love that is so 'needy'. What I believe is that you do all of this, your absolute best, because you made a vow.

Some can argue that since they broke their vows, yours no longer applies. Does being married mean that if they steal you can? If they lie, your free to do so? If they have an affair you can claim one as well, tit for tat, even steven?

Our marriage failed because of both of us.
Do not get me wrong, both of us.
I failed my wife and she failed me.
It wasn't until I realized that I had failed that I got on track, failing once I did not wish to fail again. Was I perfect? No far from it.

But I did not justify my actions by saying she did this, so I can do that. I did not justify my weakness as some sort of blessing because of hers.

I did my best to be stronger than her 'desire', and desire changes.

My vow is what made me see this through. My promise.
For better or worse, in sickness...ahhh most of us know the words. They sound pretty when you say them. Still do, and are rock hard to live up to.



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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans
Yes grr I am.

Today is not the day you quit. Tomorrow that might change but today is not the day.


thanks for that.......i don't want to quit........but after today, i don't know, it feels a bit pathetic to hang on to someone who has said that to me (i love you but.....) you know the rest

i know alot about me

i know i'm strong, accomplished in my field, funny, and compassionate.
i know i'm loyal, kind and sometimes i even think i'm beautiful

these are also things i need to remember as i try not to quit

what can you tell me jack?

what can you tell me to help me move forward and take care of me, so i don't care about him?


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i know i'm strong, accomplished in my field, funny, and compassionate. i know i'm loyal, kind and sometimes i even think i'm beautiful


He takes that away from you?

You let him?

No. You are those things without him no matter what happens.

Caring about him does not mean you lose yourself in him.

But care for yourself first.

He is not the reason you exist he is not the sum of you.

He may compliment you; bring out better things in you; but even then...you are capable of doing that all on your own. We all are.

Live for you, and when he sees you, make it so he misses you...
This is a tactic. I am not a fan of tactics they feel like tricks; HOWEVER since it happens, when he does see you do you want it to be someone he misses? Or someone he pities?



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Grr,

Here is the hard part of this...

Or at least the part that I think a lot of people want to forget...

You will ALWAYS care about him...

You will ALWAYS love him in some way...

And that is OK. It is normal.

If you didn't, I would wonder about the degree of your love for him...

They are words, Grr...

Words that we have all heard, which is why it is called script...

And the script can change...



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Grr,

I struggled with feeling pitiful too. Then I realized I have to look under every bush before I could walk away and not look back.

I read something along time ago that has really helped me. to paraphrase: True love never dies, because true love never ends. Letting go is one way of saying I love you.

Taking care of you doesn't mean you don't care about him, you just don't focus on him.

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thank you grrrls......

cat, i do love him and i know that what i feel for him is not contingent on what he feels for me

there is some comfort in this (not sure why)

grace, i do feel like i have to leave no stone unturned........unfortunately this lead to a relationship talk yesterday where he once again, told me the.......you know (l love you but......) yuck, i even hate to write it

we did end up laughing about it tho

i said some silly things about how we can save our marriage and we both found them humorous....we hugged and he gave me a small kiss on the lips and i asked
"anything?"

"nice try": he said, "but nothing"

i was more joking than anything, but of course, he was not

time to try to rebuild a friendship

time to move on and become the me that i lost somewhere in this marriage

i liked her better anyway


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At least you can laugh, that is good.

Friendship can lead to good things.

many marriages started from a friendship.

Once long ago, early in our sitch, my H told me that maybe we could go back to being friends and start from here.

I was afraid to start all over, and wanted to just try from where we were. But in the end, I reaized there was nothing to lose, as I had lost it already.

Throw away the old M. Whatever you had before that made him love you is still there, and more.

Don't lose hope, just the expectation.


Me:49 H:45 D:12 M:14 T:18
Bomb: 6/26/10
EA: 9/3/10, fizzled out slowly, now ???
11/5/11 Retrouvaille
Finally piecing....
Its peaceful at last, but we got a looong way to go
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