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Lorie,

I was concerned about what MMF had put in his first post on this thread, about there being "no boundaries" around these kids, and that they weren't doing well:

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Also, I feel that I am not only standing for my marriage but for my entire family. My children have not fared well over the years.

My wife went from being a non-judgmental moral based person to someone who is living with another person and doesn't try to lead our children by example. My kids are having a tough time knowing and living with [b]boundaries because there are no boundaries anymore.[/b] My wife does get mad at the kids if they do something that upsets her but she treats all of them like friends, i.e. adults that can make all of their own choices. When they make a choice she isnt happy with, she gets very upset with them.


Nearly everyone who advocates for long-term "standing," correctly also advises that there be strong boundaries in place. It was the "lack of boundaries" that I was questioning on this thread.

Hope that answers,

Starsky [/quote]

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, are you suggesting that MMF's stand for him marriage is causing him to have no boundaries? I read his statement as his exW as not having boundaries, and therefore the kids are having problems and making poor choices. Are you suggesting that MMF is not setting boundaries when he is with his children? That by his long "stand" the children are not seeing any boundaries? MMF can't control his exW nor the boundaries she does or does not set for their children.


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