Empathetic my foot. Hope you learn your lesson about kissing a ladies *ss!
Lesson for me too.... altho' I think men are more gullible to it. Its your ego, but what works for you guys doesn't always work for us!
Glad your wife has forgiven you. Tell her the truth one day and she will laugh, I hope, if she has a sense of humour!
Me:49 H:45 D:12 M:14 T:18 Bomb: 6/26/10 EA: 9/3/10, fizzled out slowly, now ??? 11/5/11 Retrouvaille Finally piecing.... Its peaceful at last, but we got a looong way to go
Just had a 30 min conversation (a real one! Not TM!) with W. I honestly now think that later I may look at this as a breakthrough conversation. Real talking and real listening. Wow. That damn cat (you know, the one I hate) could end up being a major help for us....Whoda ever thunk that?
M: 39 W: 37 Married: 9 D5; S3 "It's Over" 09/26/10 11 Day Sep 10/10 Piecing Starts 11/4/10 Piecing Fails 4/11 I move out 5/11 Hire Lawyer 6/11 - Stall 6/22/11 Piecing #2 - 6/22/11 Home 10/11
Just had a 30 min conversation (a real one! Not TM!) with W. I honestly now think that later I may look at this as a breakthrough conversation. Real talking and real listening. Wow. That damn cat (you know, the one I hate) could end up being a major help for us....Whoda ever thunk that?
WHEW!!!!!
I read through this three times.
I read "breakthrough" as "breakup" each time I was wonder why you seemed so calm.
Finally, on my 4th time, I read it correctly.
Oh, so now you LIKE the cat?
Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet. --Jean Jacques Rousseau.
Funny. As you said H, it was never about the cat. W hasn't thought for a long time that she was my priority. The cat was just an(other) example of that.... We discussed, I listened, I validated, she asked, I answered. I said, she listened. Neither attached; neither defended. We just talked.
It was only 30 minutes (she had to go). Still committed to MC which will have much more of that, I'm sure. Feeling pretty good at the moment.
W is a ponder-er; it'll be interesting to see how she's feeling in a couple of days...
M: 39 W: 37 Married: 9 D5; S3 "It's Over" 09/26/10 11 Day Sep 10/10 Piecing Starts 11/4/10 Piecing Fails 4/11 I move out 5/11 Hire Lawyer 6/11 - Stall 6/22/11 Piecing #2 - 6/22/11 Home 10/11
Something she said that stood out: She said "remember when you came home last November and you were doing everything - almost waiting on me, and then you said it made you feel like a wuss? And I didn't like it because I didn't ask for that?" I said, "yes, I remember". She said, "That's how I felt last night, like you were just saying you liked the cat because you thought that's what I'd want you to do".
Message received.
M: 39 W: 37 Married: 9 D5; S3 "It's Over" 09/26/10 11 Day Sep 10/10 Piecing Starts 11/4/10 Piecing Fails 4/11 I move out 5/11 Hire Lawyer 6/11 - Stall 6/22/11 Piecing #2 - 6/22/11 Home 10/11
"I liked the little hair ball puking, furniture destroying, shedding machine because it for some strange reason made you and the kids happy. I guess that means I'd like an octopus if it made you smile too, but please lets not get an octopus."
: )
Too soon? : o
Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn. - C.S. Lewis
Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B. - Jack3Beans
Listen without defending; Speak without offending - FaithinAK