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Maybe I'm stuck on the "property" thing. Although it is recurring...

Since your "more of the same" would be ignoring it. I'd wonder how things would be different if you asked her to explain what that meant, to her...


This is a good suggestion. Maybe I could even bring it up to ask.

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It does sound like her "take" on it was very negative. Certainly more than a simple, "is that not ridiculous that the law still reads that a woman is a man's property".


Yes, and again I don't know why. Our relationship isn't like that at all. We are very much partners.

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Maybe part of why I'm stuck on this is because of how you describe her sisters. The one that is self made and the one that is married into financial success. ie. Your W likely sees the later as the husband's "property" (therefore the disdain) whereas the former is seen as a "freeman", so to speak...


Yes, I think you are correct. Very correct. I hadn't really looked at both sides of that.

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I find it interesting that your W is showing interest in listening to and trying to understand things you feel are dry and boring. Any thoughts on why she might be doing that, now?


In many ways she always tries to do things that please me (other than physically). This hasn't been one of them for the most part.

She does try!

Kind of a conflict there. She really tries to be a good wife. Taking care of me in many ways. And there seems to be no conflict in her when she is doing these things. She takes pride in doing them. It seems to be separate from her actual disdain for "being a good wife".

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Also, do you know if your wife has noticed you have taken off your ring? If so, what was her reaction?


Don't know. No reaction. But she should be a poker player.

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I do understand why you have taken it off (your reason and meaning), although I am wondering if you are really doing it for you, or if you did it to get a reaction out of your W... Just asking...


For me, most of the time. I realize that I need to break the pattern we've had forever of push pull.


I've noticed lately little angry outbursts. Maybe I noticed them less before or maybe they are new.

Today was about a leaky shower. The shower above her office sometimes leaks. I pulled it out and fixed the leak around the shower but there seems to be a leak in the plumbing also. Some time ago she said it was leaking and I was trying to explain to her that the actual seal around the shower was fixed and something else was wrong but she took it as I didn't believe her that the shower was leaking. She's been pissed about it several times.

Today it came up and she was pissed again. "The same leak you din't believe me about" Obviously holding onto this for a long time.

I never did not believe her about the leak itself.

So really it's a matter of her perception that I was discounting her statement. Which this theme may come up often. I'll watch for it.

Maybe I need to say something explaining the leak.

Thank you for your questions. They make me think.