Jack,

I see your point of standing up for myself. I will give her the garage door opener back but I will tell her I'm keeping a key to the house we both own. She will be paying the mortgage with some of the monthly support I'm giving her.

D1,
I'm not sure about Going Dark. One real problem she had was that I didn't talk enough about me, her or non-child topics during our marriage. It was always about the children's sports or activities so a 180 would be to talk more about general stuff. Going Dark would be more of the same behavior that got us into to this sitch.

Obviously trying to talk to someone who doesn't want to talk is pursuing.

On the other hand she has brought up several times in the past couple of months that I don't talk to her. I've also snooped a couple of times and seen it in emails to her friend. To me seems like she doesn't want to talk but then she will complain either to me or others that I don't talk.

Maybe a successful 180 be starting to talk more to everyone else besides my wife.


Married 15 years
3 children 13, 12, 10
1st D bomb Jan 09
2nd D bomb Feb 11
I moved out June 11