You only know "when" if you can see into the future.
If you cannot foresee the future, you'll never really know "when".
So - you give up hope when you decide to give up hope.
But hoping doesn't mean you stop living.
It only means you are still open to the possibility of reconciliation - "one day perhaps".
Yesterday, I visited a close fishin' buddy of mine in the hospital. He's dying of cancer and may not last another week. He's all shrivelled up and resembles a corpse already. All I could do was pray with him for a few minutes.
Don't freak out ac; divorce and seperation won't kill you or make you permanantly ill.
Live man. It's time to live - all of us!
Me 53 XW 50 M 18 Years +2 S14 D19 Bomb 10-24-10 Served 1-27-11 Mediate 4-21-11 Civil D Final 6-2-11 No church anullment "A man is not finished when he is defeated, he is finished when he quits."